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09 Nov 2010, 8:05 pm

Yeah I knew that, I just wasn't going to complain about the newer supposedly superior multilink. I personally like struts because they are simple as hell, just looking at a multilink pisses me off though.


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09 Nov 2010, 11:29 pm

my civic is an 05 , not an si, so it corners like an old ford pickup. i learned how important it was to play with tire pressures when i was autocrossing. run 42psi front and 38 psi rear for the civic and that helped quite a bit. i generally have some sort of non-human with me so hard cornering is not much of a priority.

the corvette had 67 steel wheels with the best tires i could fit for the rims and the small wheel well space. 50 psi front and 42 rear worked the best. front had 3/4 degree negative camber and rear 1/4 degree negative. it would really turn in. at corvette club events i would always win my class and was in the 'blue bars' magazine.

not that i miss it or anything.



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10 Nov 2010, 12:37 am

danandlouie wrote:
my civic is an 05 , not an si, so it corners like an old ford pickup. i learned how important it was to play with tire pressures when i was autocrossing. run 42psi front and 38 psi rear for the civic and that helped quite a bit. i generally have some sort of non-human with me so hard cornering is not much of a priority.

The OEM Bridgestone Potenza RE92s or B380s(the Honda version of the B381 runflat tire designed for the Toyota Sienna) aren't good/safe tires for anything but going in a straight line on dry pavement. I told a friend to upgrade to Michelin Primacy MXV4s on his 2007 Civic Coupe after the OEM Bridgestone Turanza EL400s wore out. Day and night difference and a small bump in MPG.

Honda actually equips most of their cars with good - in the OEM sense - tires. The Accord EX/EX-L comes with Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 tires, the Pilot comes with Goodyear Fortera HLs or Michelin LTX M/S and the Civic Si wears Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2s OEM. Ditto with BMW, Mercedes and Audi.

Toyota and GM use HORRIBLE tires from the factory. Our Sienna had some crappy Dunlops as OEM and our Prius came with Goodyear no-Integrity. I can get the traction control to kick in on the Prius even on a WARM, SUNNY DAY to show you how BAD these tires are.



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10 Nov 2010, 1:26 am

OEM tires blow period. I'm a firm believer in General Altimax HPs for tame drivers and Sumitomo HTR Z IIIs for anyone who will try to tear their face off on an on ramp.


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10 Nov 2010, 1:47 am

I recommend Michelin, the Goodyear Assurance/Fortera series, General's Altimax series, and Yokohama. I don't recommend Bridgestone, Toyo or Dunlop anymore - my RE960s left me a bad taste in my mouth after seeing the MPG hit.



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10 Nov 2010, 2:24 am

All the good Michelins are pricey AFAIK. I had Michelin Symmetries when I learned to drive. I hate those tires with a passion and they were like $90 each.

Goodyears I just plain hate, out of all the American tire brands I honestly like Firestone the best and if I had a truck I would have Firestone Destinations on it. The Firehawk Indy 500 line (excluding run flats of course) isn't bad either...though it's still not something to write home about.


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10 Nov 2010, 2:40 am

Pistonhead wrote:
All the good Michelins are pricey AFAIK. I had Michelin Symmetries when I learned to drive. I hate those tires with a passion and they were like $90 each.

Goodyears I just plain hate, out of all the American tire brands I honestly like Firestone the best and if I had a truck I would have Firestone Destinations on it. The Firehawk Indy 500 line (excluding run flats of course) isn't bad either...though it's still not something to write home about.

So far, a set of Costco-exclusive Michelin X Radials have transformed our Sienna into a safer and better handling van. They were $480 out the door installed. The Symmetries and the Energy LX4 kinda suck - they are more for OEM fitments on Lincolns, Cadillacs and Toyota/Honda minivans.
The old school Goodyear lineup which are their OEM and Wal-Mart tires suck, the Assurance TripleTred is a great tire for family cars and minivans. Firestone's improved quite a bit - I only wished Costco carried Firestone(they have Bridgestone already and they carry both Michelin and BFGoodrich).



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10 Nov 2010, 2:27 pm

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The last Civic I somewhat liked was the 2000 model, after that they just got too bloated and soulless.

I had a 1984 Civic 3-door and it was one of my all time favorites! Tiny, full of personality and handled like a race car. Even on 13in wheels.
I love cars. I've had about 35 cars in my 33 years. Also 12 or 13 motorcycles. I'm not particularly loyal to any manufacturer or model. Or size, shape or color. I've had fast cars and slow, big and little, Japaneese, German and American and I enjoyed almost all of them in their own way. The Neon was one notable exception, but it was my wife's car.
My current ride is a spectacularly ugly 1990 Caravan that I use for delivery and to haul my mountain and road bikes to nicer places to ride.
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10 Nov 2010, 3:41 pm

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Did I do that? :roll:



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12 Nov 2010, 8:32 am

While I like cars in general (especially muscle cars) I really love Oldsmobiles. I have my Oldsmobile Cutlass in my garage, and she's great for a Sunday drive (or any day, really). But my main driving car in my Toyota Corolla. THIS is the car that deserves the praise. My Toyota has worked tirelessly and with very little trouble for over 10 years. It has 276,000 miles on the odometer. It gets me to work, to see my family, to friends, to wherever I need to go. It is good on gas. So I do believe that I will continue to own Toyotas after this one is no longer with me.
Cars that I enjoy to see just to see them, though are:
1. any classic Oldsmobile. Hurst Oldsmobiles, Cutlasses, 442's, 98's, 88's, ets...
2. Lamborghinis. Italian cars look nice, and I like them better than Ferarris.
3. cars from the 1950's. Big fins and lots of chrome.
4. quirky cars from other countries. Rarely, I might see a Citroen or some other car that makes me smile.
5. REALLY old cars from the Depression era and earlier. Seeing these cars is like time traveling.