Keying cars
Some peoples notion here is that its just a scratch on a piece of metal, they cannot see any deeper.
My own car for instance, its been being restored, on top of what I paid for the new body panels, and the months I have spent getting filthy dirty, then £4000 for the paintwork alone, and now I spend all my days off out in the cold, cleaning and painting all the parts, and reassembling the bare body shell, no holidays, no going down the pub or out for meals, this is all Ive got, it represents 5 years of my life and is my special interest.
When its done, some selfish as*hole who doesn't work himself, but survives on the taxes I have to earn, might look at it and think Iam rich, well Iam not, but I do have a full time job and instead of spending my wages on a wife and kids, because I cannot get such, all my Paternal Love is put into such as my car instead whilst I eat cheese on toast as my main meal.
If I catch somebody ruining my life because they cannot find a parking space, I will ensure I ruin theirs.
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No, I have never keyed a car because I couldn't find a parking spot! That is completely over the line and I hope you get caught and prosecuted for it! I could see letting the air out of their tires but not causing damage like that. Yes, it's just a scratch but they will have to get that fixed if they want their car to look like it did before. As for them being a "rich a**hole" well, maybe it's somebody who is a member of the "working class" who scrimped and saved and got a huge loan with huge car payments just because they have always wanted a car like that and her you come along and ruin it because you can't find a parking space.
How about doing the adult thing and take down the tag numbers and give them to the office so they can do something about it? Maybe if they know it's going on a lot and the same cars are there without a permit a lot, they will tell you to call and have the cars towed. That would be a lot better than destruction of property!
Here's something else for you to think about. They may not notice that the car was keyed there. They may think it happened at the grocery store, their own driveway, the bank, their job, etc. They may have no way of associating the vandalism to parking in a spot you wanted to have, so you haven't "taught" them anything. They won't see it as a consequence of parking there. If their car is towed, then they will.
If you have such strong feelings that you should be able to destroy others property just because you are inconvenienced, maybe you should back them up. Sit out there all night and confront the people who are parked there. Since you think you are in the right and should be able to do that, why not wait till they are at their car and then key it? Grow a pair if you are gonna do something like that, because keep it up and eventually somebody will see you and probably kick your ass about it. I hope they do actually.
You are doing nothing more than acting like a spoiled child, and not only a spoiled, whiney, bratty child, but a cowardly one at that.
I sincerely hope that one day you have something that you value and somebody else ruins it because something you did annoyed them. I really do.
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Its vandalism. One does not have the right to willfully flamage the property of another.
Well I don't believe in private property rights. Rich peoplr get away with breaking the law and theft all the time in the US. I'd never do anything to hurt a member of the working class though. If the car looks like it belongs to a poor or middle class person, I wouldn't touch it
Live in housing area of primarily young people near a very good university, so anyone with a Mercedes is likely a rich as*hole from the suburbs who's parents own a bank (I actually had to buy a car for my dad once). I don't know why people would park there who don't have a permit. I guess it's the same gated community mentality that killed Trayvon Martin
You don't have any idea that the people whose cars you stole are constantly getting away with breaking the law.
You don't know how hard they worked to get enough money to pay for the car.
Resentment at their perceived easy ride through life is no reason to behave like a jerk.
And of course, by "stole", I meant "keyed".
Hooray for brain farts.
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I thought Asperger's was about lacking empathy and not following social rules. It would seem that the subject of this thread fits both of these. At least I have never keyed poor people's cars, so I do have some empathy.
Because he didn't. I know which thread you're referring to and that was about false accusations.
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You didn't miss anything rapidroy. In the very beginning I too saw no reason to believe that he wasn't 82 (although let's face it how many such elderly people are computer literate and would have the energy to go on forums posting all the time), I worked it out by his style of posting that he was a lot younger.
His stating he is 82, confirms what I have already said about his sarcastic manner. As you rightly say, you can not display your birth date so no age will show under your avatar. Instead of choosing this option, he chose to be sarcastic (well, I can't see it being anything else, it's certainly not funny by any stretch).
And yet again, someone has resorted to puerile insults, which is kind of ironic since they accuse the OP of being childish by expressing themselves in a childish fashion:
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Some people have nothing better to do than to take their life's frustrations out on others anonymously online. Who's the coward really.
Nothing excuses Tyri0n's actions, but two wrongs don't make a right either.
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And yet again, someone has resorted to puerile insults, which is kind of ironic since they accuse the OP of being childish by expressing themselves in a childish fashion:
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Some people have nothing better to do than to take their life's frustrations out on others anonymously online. Who's the coward really.
Nothing excuses Tyri0n's actions, but two wrongs don't make a right either.
Exactly how is it childish to tell someone who is going around destroying other peoples property in a fit of anger that he is acting like a spoiled, whiney, bratty child, and a cowardly one at that? It's not being childish, it's pointing out how the OP is acting.
Also, your sarcastic comment "Who's the coward really." doesn't fly. I'm no coward and if I had an issue with someone I would talk with them face to face rather than take such cowardly and punitive actions like keying their cars. I don't have any frustrations in my life that would be relieved by pointing out the OP's behavior is cowardly and childish.
Why do you feel the need to attack those who are pointing out that the OP is acting in an unacceptable manner? Would you still feel that he wasn't childish or cowardly if it were your car he keyed?
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And yet again, someone has resorted to puerile insults, which is kind of ironic since they accuse the OP of being childish by expressing themselves in a childish fashion:
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Some people have nothing better to do than to take their life's frustrations out on others anonymously online. Who's the coward really.
Nothing excuses Tyri0n's actions, but two wrongs don't make a right either.
Exactly how is it childish to tell someone who is going around destroying other peoples property in a fit of anger that he is acting like a spoiled, whiney, bratty child, and a cowardly one at that? It's not being childish, it's pointing out how the OP is acting.
Also, your sarcastic comment "Who's the coward really." doesn't fly. I'm no coward and if I had an issue with someone I would talk with them face to face rather than take such cowardly and punitive actions like keying their cars. I don't have any frustrations in my life that would be relieved by pointing out the OP's behavior is cowardly and childish.
Why do you feel the need to attack those who are pointing out that the OP is acting in an unacceptable manner? Would you still feel that he wasn't childish or cowardly if it were your car he keyed?
Because name calling is childish and unnecessary.
Just showing you what it feels like. You've attacked me in a thread before and I chose to ignore you rather than belittle you a thousand-fold as to what you attempted to do to me. As to frustrations in your life, there is a lot I could say, but I will leave it there.
A rhetorical question: Why do you feel the need to attack others? When someone is a fantastic judge of character themselves, then they are in a better place to criticise others.
Just saying it as it is.
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And yet again, someone has resorted to puerile insults, which is kind of ironic since they accuse the OP of being childish by expressing themselves in a childish fashion:
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Some people have nothing better to do than to take their life's frustrations out on others anonymously online. Who's the coward really.
Nothing excuses Tyri0n's actions, but two wrongs don't make a right either.
Exactly how is it childish to tell someone who is going around destroying other peoples property in a fit of anger that he is acting like a spoiled, whiney, bratty child, and a cowardly one at that? It's not being childish, it's pointing out how the OP is acting.
Also, your sarcastic comment "Who's the coward really." doesn't fly. I'm no coward and if I had an issue with someone I would talk with them face to face rather than take such cowardly and punitive actions like keying their cars. I don't have any frustrations in my life that would be relieved by pointing out the OP's behavior is cowardly and childish.
Why do you feel the need to attack those who are pointing out that the OP is acting in an unacceptable manner? Would you still feel that he wasn't childish or cowardly if it were your car he keyed?
Because name calling is childish and unnecessary.
Just showing you what it feels like. You've attacked me in a thread before and I chose to ignore you rather than belittle you a thousand-fold as to what you attempted to do to me. As to frustrations in your life, there is a lot I could say, but I will leave it there.
A rhetorical question: Why do you feel the need to attack others? When someone is a fantastic judge of character themselves, then they are in a better place to criticise others.
Just saying it as it is.
I wasn't calling him names in the sentence you quoted. I was saying how he was acting. There is a difference. If name calling is childish and unnecessary, then what about what you are doing? Where is the line drawn?
As for "attacking" you in a post, if I've said something that you felt was an attack then you have every right to say something right back to me about it.
Also, if you wait a while then point out how you ignored someone's behavior then you aren't exactly ignoring it, you are only using it to try and put a spin on another situation.
I don't really care either way what you think of me or my comments, and you can certainly have the last word in this conversation because you sound like you want it, so say what you want, I really, honestly, don't care. I'll hit "submit" and you will be completely out of my thoughts without any effect on me, my moods, or my actions.
Have a nice evening, and I hope it's not too windy on that pedestal you have put yourself on.
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May I ask if the OP grew up in an affluent family? It seems he doesn't care about "things" very much. I just want to share another perspective.
I myself grew up with very little (thus my respect for things comment in a previous post). We made our own clothes and knitted our own sweaters. Things weren't just things, it's time, energy, creativity and love all poured into them to make them nice and functional. Gosh, not to mention scraping together the money and fabric ration coupon and traveling into town to get the material. That's why I value things, especially nice ones.
You can say mass produced stuff are not like handmade things. Still, someone somewhere spent a lot of time making them. A car probably went through the hands of hundreds of people, many of them worked long and hard and with meager salary. Not valuing human work is disrespectful. Plus car owners often need to spend several months' worth of pay to buy them. When you think that's how much commute, how many meetings, how much typing (or walking or standing), how much effort to do your job well, tolerating bosses and getting along with co-workers...etc. Well, if you have spent an entire 6 months' worth of your blood and sweat, and finally bought a nice car you love, and someone damaged it, wouldn't you be fuming about it? Don't just say they must belong to rich people so they didn't work hard for them. You don't know that. How many rich people park their cars in apartment parking? I get the impression that they usually have 6-car garages attached to their mansions.
Aspies might lack empathy instinctively, but they can learn it with their heads. As far as I know if one can not learn anything about empathy, they're probably not aspies. Most likely with some other personality disorders. My impression during my time at this forum is although aspies are generally odd, we're still mostly kind and respectful people who don't want to hurt others, and feel incredibly guilty if we did hurt them without realizing.
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I myself grew up with very little (thus my respect for things comment in a previous post). We made our own clothes and knitted our own sweaters. Things weren't just things, it's time, energy, creativity and love all poured into them to make them nice and functional. Gosh, not to mention scraping together the money and fabric ration coupon and traveling into town to get the material. That's why I value things, especially nice ones.
You can say mass produced stuff are not like handmade things. Still, someone somewhere spent a lot of time making them. A car probably went through the hands of hundreds of people, many of them worked long and hard and with meager salary.
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Aspies might lack empathy instinctively, but they can learn it with their heads. As far as I know if one can not learn anything about empathy, they're probably not aspies. Most likely with some other personality disorders. My impression during my time at this forum is although aspies are generally odd, we're still mostly kind and respectful people who don't want to hurt others, and feel incredibly guilty if we did hurt them without realizing.
I relate to what you say about people having more respect for property if they have had the experience of working hard to produce something of value to them, but I don't think this idea of most aspies being kind and respectful people is necessarily true
I think it is a projection from yourself ie you are like this so you expect other aspies to be the same
I used to think like this but now I think aspies are no more or less likely to be nice and respectful than anyone else - it's all down to their individual personality and life experiences in my opinion. Then there's the fact that Asperger's Syndrome isn't an exact science and that people can have all sorts of additional diagnoses or be misdiagnosed.
I relate to what you say about people having more respect for property if they have had the experience of working hard to produce something of value to them, but I don't think this idea of most aspies being kind and respectful people is necessarily true
I think it is a projection from yourself ie you are like this so you expect other aspies to be the same
I used to think like this but now I think aspies are no more or less likely to be nice and respectful than anyone else - it's all down to their individual personality and life experiences in my opinion. Then there's the fact that Asperger's Syndrome isn't an exact science and that people can have all sorts of additional diagnoses or be misdiagnosed.
Maybe you're right. But that's exactly my point, aspies are no more likely to destroy properties than NT people are. (Especially if NT people include all those with other psychological issues.) To me most people seem kind, so I assume most aspies are kind, too.
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I relate to what you say about people having more respect for property if they have had the experience of working hard to produce something of value to them, but I don't think this idea of most aspies being kind and respectful people is necessarily true
I think it is a projection from yourself ie you are like this so you expect other aspies to be the same
I used to think like this but now I think aspies are no more or less likely to be nice and respectful than anyone else - it's all down to their individual personality and life experiences in my opinion. Then there's the fact that Asperger's Syndrome isn't an exact science and that people can have all sorts of additional diagnoses or be misdiagnosed.
Maybe you're right. But that's exactly my point, aspies are no more likely to destroy properties than NT people are. (Especially if NT people include all those with other psychological issues.) To me most people seem kind, so I assume most aspies are kind, too.
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You are lucky in my opinion as kindness hasn't been my general experience of other people!
Some are kind but mainly I feel I'm just ignored and left to get on with it by most people and that includes family!