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17 Aug 2015, 3:10 pm

Dillogic wrote:
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The capital cities are good for a few days holiday and that's it.


Yep

It's pretty much the same worldwide too (unless you have an interest in a specific culture, but that's kinda dying out now that the world is so connected).

People are pretty much the same everywhere. The sights may change, but if there's no specific interest, they end up looking all the same in the end (snow is snow wherever you go). But then, I'm kinda a party pooper with these things.
Couldn´t agree more, except that I wouldn´t bother visiting capital cities, generally speaking. That´s why I don´t travel anymore/yet, the boring tourist trips would be all I could afford.


But as I´ve said earlier, I´m very interested in nature, and have spent some time watching documentaries on YT.
May I ask something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K89Xa7RuH88
Do Australians in general think about these things today?

And this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyJp_Sg1M_c
(full episode here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04zAef07Cs )
He lived in this tin shack, very spartan to say the least (with rats and snakes and god knows what as bonus pets :lol: )
Is it legal, don´t your health and safety authorities regulate such things yet?



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17 Aug 2015, 4:02 pm

Perhaps I should have mentioned that this

Katira wrote:
And this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyJp_Sg1M_c
(full episode here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04zAef07Cs )
He lived in this tin shack, very spartan to say the least (with rats and snakes and god knows what as bonus pets :lol: )
Is it legal, don´t your health and safety authorities regulate such things yet?


came to mind because of this great stand up comedian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAnGYfnFz9I
Full show "While It's Still Legal":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohogzxiqqkM



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17 Aug 2015, 6:19 pm

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Don't bother, it's expensive here. The capital cities are good for a few days holiday and that's it.

Yep It's pretty much the same worldwide too (unless you have an interest in a specific culture, but that's kinda dying out now that the world is so connected).

it is affordable/not expensive where I live, but I live out in the sticks. isn't the outback also relatively affordable compared with the more temperate coastal cities?



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17 Aug 2015, 7:04 pm

I don't know how visitors cope with the Myki ticketing system in Melbourne its been chaos since it started.



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17 Aug 2015, 7:51 pm

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As for why it was a lie: I recall it was actually a lie to begin with (the person made it up). Plus, it's insulting for the simple reason that it's implying people in Oz are prone to racial violence and minorities need protection from said people. As far as I can tell, that's not the case at all.

That was interesting. I had to go digging around, but I found a single news article in the Brisbane Times (plus a couple of blog posts) that showed that the initial story that inspired the hashtag was only half true. I would've like to have seen this story published in more news outlets, even if only to confirm what was said.

Still, I get the whole inspiration behind the hashtag. I think these kinds of social media movements are a backlash not so much against the kind of racial or ethnic violence you see in other countries, but rather against the racial fearmongering that, while still minor, seems to be on the rise in Australia, both in the news and in society as a whole. Groups like Reclaim Australia have the right to protest and express their views, but I'd still hope that everyone else will just shrug them off with a "meh, whatever" attitude.

Not sure how I would've felt if I were Muslim seeing people actually offering to ride with me to work or school on the train. I prefer to keep my own company on public transport. :P


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17 Aug 2015, 9:54 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
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Don't bother, it's expensive here. The capital cities are good for a few days holiday and that's it.
Yep It's pretty much the same worldwide too (unless you have an interest in a specific culture, but that's kinda dying out now that the world is so connected).
it is affordable/not expensive where I live, but I live out in the sticks. isn't the outback also relatively affordable compared with the more temperate coastal cities
The rent is much cheaper but you would have a harder time getting a job there. Would good is having cheaper rent if you have no income?


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17 Aug 2015, 10:00 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
Don't bother, it's expensive here. The capital cities are good for a few days holiday and that's it.
Yep It's pretty much the same worldwide too (unless you have an interest in a specific culture, but that's kinda dying out now that the world is so connected).
it is affordable/not expensive where I live, but I live out in the sticks. isn't the outback also relatively affordable compared with the more temperate coastal cities
The rent is much cheaper but you would have a harder time getting a job there. Would good is having cheaper rent if you have no income?

no jobs where I live also. if it weren't for some good luck, I'd be living under a bridge.



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18 Aug 2015, 12:29 am

Katira wrote:
May I ask something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K89Xa7RuH88
Do Australians in general think about these things today?

And this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyJp_Sg1M_c
(full episode here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04zAef07Cs )
He lived in this tin shack, very spartan to say the least (with rats and snakes and god knows what as bonus pets :lol: )
Is it legal, don´t your health and safety authorities regulate such things yet?


You may.

You only really hear of dingoes mentioned if there's a human attack somewhere (usually Fraser Island, as there's many there for a small area). I've only seen them on said island (I might have heard some howling when I first moved here, but they might have been a pack of feral dogs). They don't seem to be as adapt at hunting like feral cats, so they're often really skinny. People see that they're native critters. I suppose they are, but you can tell they never evolved here.

As long as you own the land and pay the council rates, you can live how you want on it for the most part. People often build sheds on blocks of land out here as you have somewhere to live whilst you save up for a proper house (some people stay in the sheds; there's a dude just down the road that lives in his shed, and he has for over a decade). Funnily, my mother had a wild joey living in her home when she was young and living even further out west; they like pillow cases to sleep in (he had my room before I was born).

You can go bush and live that way too without owning land, just don't bring attention to yourself (like, bothering people). :) When there's so much space, the law doesn't really care unless you're being a nuisance.



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18 Aug 2015, 5:53 am

I have already invaded Australia and I don't want any more of you bogging up the works!

"Get your damn dirty paws off my girt by sea!"
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18 Aug 2015, 5:55 am

you're so lucky to live there already. :|



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18 Aug 2015, 6:15 am

...It seems a lot of homeless people of a more " stable/permanent ' well-off ' " , nature , so to speak ,in Oz live in caves near cities out by the ocean ?
On a homeless-oriented board* that in fact came out of AU that I used to post on ~ It's now inactive/off the Web but its owner still has a placeholder page ~ I recall a post by a fairly long-term/stabilized HL , he was going to college/uni in town & living in a by-the-beach cave , IIRC .


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Katira wrote:
May I ask something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K89Xa7RuH88
Do Australians in general think about these things today?

And this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyJp_Sg1M_c
(full episode here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04zAef07Cs )
He lived in this tin shack, very spartan to say the least (with rats and snakes and god knows what as bonus pets :lol: )
Is it legal, don´t your health and safety authorities regulate such things yet?


You may.

You only really hear of dingoes mentioned if there's a human attack somewhere (usually Fraser Island, as there's many there for a small area). I've only seen them on said island (I might have heard some howling when I first moved here, but they might have been a pack of feral dogs). They don't seem to be as adapt at hunting like feral cats, so they're often really skinny. People see that they're native critters. I suppose they are, but you can tell they never evolved here.

As long as you own the land and pay the council rates, you can live how you want on it for the most part. People often build sheds on blocks of land out here as you have somewhere to live whilst you save up for a proper house (some people stay in the sheds; there's a dude just down the road that lives in his shed, and he has for over a decade). Funnily, my mother had a wild joey living in her home when she was young and living even further out west; they like pillow cases to sleep in (he had my room before I was born).

You can go bush and live that way too without owning land, just don't bring attention to yourself (like, bothering people). :) When there's so much space, the law doesn't really care unless you're being a nuisance.[/quote]



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18 Aug 2015, 6:20 am

auntblabby wrote:
you're so lucky to live there already. :|


auntblabby wrote:
you're so lucky to live there already. :|


:(

Australias' no different from any other country
There are as many bigot's, racist's, sexist's, idealoque's and hater's as anywhere else.

The crimes the governments of this country have committed against the indigenous peoples, the voting citizens
and our own precious environment, are staggering, criminal and without excuse!

BIg Business and Mega corporations control our governments, bend and amend our laws...

but as long as there's sport on TV

Only a tiny minority weep and rage in frustrated importunity

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18 Aug 2015, 6:52 am

...*-The OZ homeless forum now down , but with a placeholder page still up (and in the past they were up , down , then back up again for a whie , post-able on IIRCl ~ then down again and I think the placeholder page situation was the same both times) was:
Http://www.homelessforums.org/
I took too long on another post to come back & correct & put it in the earlier pace , and incidentally: :(
As I said in more detail there , I put up a new post , headed " More About Australia " which was meant in fact to be new post in this line , my :( penchant for accidentally clicking on " New Topic " here rather than " Answer " kicked in again & I didn't discover this til' I'd finished the text entirely and I DON'T KNOW HOW to " put it in a new " whatever , or E-mail it to the older line or whatever :( - I asked Ye Mod if s/he would just add it to this line , please . :(
As I alluded to before , some past legal problems (not felonies ~ Aunt Blabby knows about this ~ really , baisically , they were " poverty/being homeless " crimes or at least grew out of being HL :| ) apparently would keep me , at least at that time , from traveling to Australia (or Canada either - & I was CONCEIVED there ! :( :? :oops: ) - I might refer to the well-known circumstances under which Oz came to be settled by Caucasian/Euro-descended persons , guys , 'cmon ! But , hey , numerous whores/naughty ladies have been known to become HIGHLY respectable in their old age (Hey , an Aussie found that joke amusing on Prison Talk Online , I'll have you know ! :lol: ) ! !!!hehehe



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18 Aug 2015, 9:15 am

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you're so lucky to live there already. :|
Yes we are.

But we don't have fibre to house internet like all you yanks do. And to make matters worse we have to put up with cartoonishly stupid, sociopathic right-wing politicians.


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18 Aug 2015, 11:43 am

Dillogic wrote:
Katira wrote:
You may.

You only really hear of dingoes mentioned if there's a human attack somewhere (usually Fraser Island, as there's many there for a small area). I've only seen them on said island (I might have heard some howling when I first moved here, but they might have been a pack of feral dogs). They don't seem to be as adapt at hunting like feral cats, so they're often really skinny. People see that they're native critters. I suppose they are, but you can tell they never evolved here.

As long as you own the land and pay the council rates, you can live how you want on it for the most part. People often build sheds on blocks of land out here as you have somewhere to live whilst you save up for a proper house (some people stay in the sheds; there's a dude just down the road that lives in his shed, and he has for over a decade). Funnily, my mother had a wild joey living in her home when she was young and living even further out west; they like pillow cases to sleep in (he had my room before I was born).

You can go bush and live that way too without owning land, just don't bring attention to yourself (like, bothering people). :) When there's so much space, the law doesn't really care unless you're being a nuisance.
Okay, thanks. Then it seems like yo still do have some freedom. Sounds nice :)



There´s quite a lot about the Australian nature and history on YT, some of course is rubbish but some of it is actually very good quality I think. One of my favourites is this series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFyQ8-A ... 07D4628306

Some time ago I also found something about a project trying to save the Tasmanian devil from extinction by transporting healthy animals to mainland Australia, to some kind of research facility/-ies. Or something like that? Can´t find it anymore.
Some others seem to think it would be beneficial having them reintroduced:
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2015/08 ... 439486902/
Like people here discuss the benefits of dingoes (and using maremmas protecting sheep):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn2-Eri1oPY
It´s a good thing there are dedicated people caring about such things :D Often the solutions to problems we have created is surprisingly simple.

Sorry, no hijacking of the thread intended, just sharing in case someone would be interested :)



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18 Aug 2015, 4:58 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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you're so lucky to live there already. :|
Yes we are. But we don't have fibre to house internet like all you yanks do. And to make matters worse we have to put up with cartoonishly stupid, sociopathic right-wing politicians.

all us yanks certainly do NOT have fiber to house internet, I know I don't. it's all copper lines out in the boonies where I live. the only reason I even have a weak dsl-lite is 'cause a walmart was built down the road so they upgraded the county infrastructure to accommodate them. and we certainly are chock-full of toxic right wing extremists here also.