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31 May 2013, 12:53 pm

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The world was a better place when there was the Soviet Union.



I completely agree! I have been telling people this for years.



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31 May 2013, 3:08 pm

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There was also an Aral Sea at the location most maps still show it.


The South will rise again. :wink:



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31 May 2013, 5:09 pm

It's wrong to view porn if you're in a relationship, and not all men watch it or need it. A penis is not an excuse to betray, lie, or hurt your partner.


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31 May 2013, 5:25 pm

EmoGlambertAspie wrote:
It's wrong to view porn if you're in a relationship, and not all men watch it or need it. A penis is not an excuse to betray, lie, or hurt your partner.


I thought I was the only one who thought this way.



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02 Jun 2013, 6:19 pm

-the idea of technological advancement and "growth" beyond what it is now seems pointless

-I don't see what is good about having power over other people. Best would be neither ruling nor being ruled

-I think the genders have differently wired brains and bodies and shouldn't be held to the same expectations (not implying either is superior but that both are different,, like the difference between two different dog breeds)

-I don't judge people's nor animals' worth based on anything, including their ability to do certain things. Who can decide what abilities are better or worse. Though I do agree that dangerous offenders should be locked up for life.

-Non-violent offendors should never be put in jail, violent offendors always should, including if they were cruel to animals

-I think looks matter just as much as personality in choosing a mate

-I get bored during movies that are longer than 1 hour and 30 minutes and can't wait for it to end. No Lord of the Rings for me.

-I'm not a big fan of rock or pop and prefer electronic music with minimal or only very pretty-sounding vocals

-I strongly prefer non-fictional books and movies over fictional

-I despise cars and everything about them

-I think the point in life is to reduce attachments and find inner happiness that is not dependent on external circumstances, also to love and forgive oneself and everyone else conditionally

-The ego and its justification is the root of all evil and all negative aspects of society, including religion and capitalist exploitation



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02 Jun 2013, 6:52 pm

Alcohol should be banned. There are too many harmful side-effects, and what few health benefits there are can be more easily obtained with a sensible diet and regular exercise.


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02 Jun 2013, 8:01 pm

Too much of what passes for patriotism in America is nothing more than loud-mouthed jingoism.



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03 Jun 2013, 4:02 am

Murihiku wrote:
Alcohol should be banned. There are too many harmful side-effects, and what few health benefits there are can be more easily obtained with a sensible diet and regular exercise.


We tried that once here, it didn't go so well.


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03 Jun 2013, 5:02 am

Dox47 wrote:
Murihiku wrote:
Alcohol should be banned. There are too many harmful side-effects, and what few health benefits there are can be more easily obtained with a sensible diet and regular exercise.


We tried that once here, it didn't go so well.

Yeah, I read The Great Gatsby in high school. :wink:

If it were a more popular opinion, it may have a better shot at success. :P


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03 Jun 2013, 5:30 am

People who are born into success have less of an ego than someone who attained it later in life. This applies for looks, wealth and fame.



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03 Jun 2013, 1:03 pm

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If it were a more popular opinion, it may have a better shot at success. :P


It was popular enough at the time to get a Constitutional amendment passed, it just didn't work, like most forms of prohibition.


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03 Jun 2013, 1:46 pm

Murihiku wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Murihiku wrote:
Alcohol should be banned. There are too many harmful side-effects, and what few health benefits there are can be more easily obtained with a sensible diet and regular exercise.


We tried that once here, it didn't go so well.

Yeah, I read The Great Gatsby in high school. :wink:

If it were a more popular opinion, it may have a better shot at success. :P


Ummm, if the "few" benefits (preventing heart disease being one of them, which, BTW is the number 1 killer of men in America. So few, maybe, but quality over quantity, I say) can be more easily obtained through diet and regular exercise then how come you see people who diet and exercise and touch not a drop of alcohol keel over and die of a heart attack every single day? Remember Jim Fixx? He published bestselling books about running, ate tofu, and swam from Japan to mainland Asia (figuratively speaking) every day. Died of... sure enough, heart attack. And you know what could have prevented that? If he pounded a fifth of hard liquor every day. Yeah, sounds like a joke I know, and liver damage is an issue, I know, but I'd MUCH rather be alive with a sh***y liver and good heart than dead with bad heart and good liver. And if you build tolerance then liver damage doesn't happen. Lemmy pounds a fifth per day and has a liver that is at 100%. Sure, alcohol has its problems if you're alcoholic or have a drinking problem, but you know what? I don't have a drinking problem AND I'm not alcoholic, and I know there are a lot of people out there like me. So why take away our rights and 20 or so years of our lives so that people who have a genetic predisposition can live with a little less peer pressure? It doesn't make sense.



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03 Jun 2013, 5:36 pm

dustyrose wrote:
-the idea of technological advancement and "growth" beyond what it is now seems pointless


I hope you're not making the "everything that can be invented has been invented" prediction, because it gets proven hilariously wrong every couple of years.



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04 Jun 2013, 9:22 am

Thanks for the responses to my earlier post.

Dox47 wrote:
Murihiku wrote:
If it were a more popular opinion, it may have a better shot at success. :P


It was popular enough at the time to get a Constitutional amendment passed, it just didn't work, like most forms of prohibition.

Agreed; it became less popular over time, which is why support for it dropped to the point where people just basically ignored it. Or else it still wasn't popular enough to be sustained long-term. I agree that nationwide prohibitions are difficult to enforce without a widespread willingness to voluntarily abstain ... which is why my opinion will likely remain unpopular for a long time to come. Maybe if something like "synthehol" became a reality ...

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Ummm, if the "few" benefits (preventing heart disease being one of them, which, BTW is the number 1 killer of men in America. So few, maybe, but quality over quantity, I say) can be more easily obtained through diet and regular exercise then how come you see people who diet and exercise and touch not a drop of alcohol keel over and die of a heart attack every single day? Remember Jim Fixx? He published bestselling books about running, ate tofu, and swam from Japan to mainland Asia (figuratively speaking) every day. Died of... sure enough, heart attack. And you know what could have prevented that? If he pounded a fifth of hard liquor every day. Yeah, sounds like a joke I know, and liver damage is an issue, I know, but I'd MUCH rather be alive with a sh***y liver and good heart than dead with bad heart and good liver. And if you build tolerance then liver damage doesn't happen. Lemmy pounds a fifth per day and has a liver that is at 100%. Sure, alcohol has its problems if you're alcoholic or have a drinking problem, but you know what? I don't have a drinking problem AND I'm not alcoholic, and I know there are a lot of people out there like me. So why take away our rights and 20 or so years of our lives so that people who have a genetic predisposition can live with a little less peer pressure? It doesn't make sense.

Conversely, there are also people who are casual or social drinkers that die of heart attacks (like my grandfather) or liver cancer (like my grandmother). There are also people who regularly exercise and maintain a good diet while not drinking who do not die of heart attacks (or liver cancer). Nevertheless, the benefits of healthy diet + exercise, and of moderate alcohol consumption, are well known – as are the side-effects of intoxication.

I get what you're saying about the right to enjoy a drink, though, Rights are certainly valuable, even if they are invariably subject to the wishes of society and aren't always uniform: that's why alcohol is widely available and enjoyed in most countries, while recreational drugs are banned in most of them (with Portugal being a notable, and interesting, exception).

Personally, I think that you can have a great time without alcohol, and it would result in a lot less violence and anti-social behaviour. But would I impose such a belief on others? No, not without widespread support in society. Besides, a similar argument could be made against kitchen knives or (wait for it) guns. So I won't lose sleep if my opinion remains unpopular. There are always efforts to curb problem drinking worth supporting, as an alternative.


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04 Jun 2013, 12:23 pm

Heart disease is most likely pretty tough to prevent completely, which is why so many die of it. I would never make the claim that alcohol would completely prevent it no matter how much a person consumed. However, moderate consumption may have added a considerable amount of years to your grandfather's life. Sadly, if it's going to happen it's going to happen. However, diet and exercise are excellent routes to heart health, too. I would tend to believe if you had a bum ticker you'd want to do EVERYTHING that you can to keep it from killing you. And that definitely means alcohol, diet, exercise, and pretty much exactly what your doctor would tell you. Maybe an aspirin pill every day.



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06 Jun 2013, 4:51 pm

I want my WP account deleted.