Guitar_Girl wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Guitar_Girl wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm very German on both sides, though I have a little Swedish and Polish on my Dad's side, and Austrian on my Mom's.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Are your ancestors from Kraichgau, Germany? Just going by your name.
Yes, as a matter of fact. On my Dad's side, to be exact. The Kraichgau is a region in Southwest Germany between the Rhine and the Neckar, which is now part of modern day Baden-Wurttemberg. While most of Baden-Wurttemberg speak Swabian-Alemannic dialects, the people of the Kraichgau and the region immediately to the east of the Neckar speak High Franconian dialects, which still gives them a sense of a separate history to this day. The Franks had invaded this particular region of Germany in the early 6th century, in an ongoing war with the Alemannic tribes there. Pushing many of the Alemanni out, the Franks settled down there, as they did in Gaul (France) to the west.
To be exact, my Dad's people were Black Sea Germans. That is, Germans from north Baden-Wurttemberg, north Alsace, and the Rhineland Palatinate (all Franconian speaking) invited by the Russian empire to colonize the 19th century Black Sea region recently taken from Turkey (much like the earlier, more famous Volga Germans mostly from Hesse).
Sorry to have diarrhea of the typing fingers (now, that's a weird image!), but hey, I have Asperger's, after all. History has been almost a life long obsession.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
You sound alot like me! I love history!
But I don't really have many ancestors from Kraichgau.
Most of my German ancestors are from Alsace Lorraine, including 5 of my ggg grandparents on my dad's side, who immigrated in the mid 1800s, (most others came during the late 1600s- early 1700s) Baden-Wurttemburg, and Hesse. Some are also from Saxony- Ahnalt, and Rudersberg, which is in Austria according to the map on Ancestry.com (confused on that one).
I had many many many German-speaking French Hugonauts also.
German is somewhere between 30% and 40% of my ancestry.
Guitar_Girl-
I'm always glad to hear from a fellow history buff who just happens to be a Deutscher!
Besides coming from the Kraichgau, the Dad's folks back in the Reformation period were supposed to originally been from Saxony. In fact, family tradition always maintained we had an ancestor who corresponded with Martin Luther. I myself found that Luther had had a life long friend and and fellow theologian named Wenesclaus Link (my family name). I found that he later relocated to Nuremberg, which today is in the Franconian speaking region of Bavaria, where he spent the rest of his life. I don't know for a fact that this man is an ancestor, but if he is, it would make sense: after the Thirty years war, the Kraichgau, as most of the rest of Germany, was so depleted in population that the nobles there recruited new settlers to come, mostly from areas where Franconian dialects were spoken.
When my Dad's people relocated to the Black Sea area in Russia (today Ukraine), a male ancestor married a lady from northern Alsace, who, as the settlers from the Kraichgau, also spoke a similar Franconian dialect. Someone who had also married into the family had been a deserter from the Prussian army - it may have been this person who had had roots in Holstein, thus speaking a Saxon Low German. Someone who had had a Swedish mother got into the bloodline, as did a Polish girl who had been taken in as a child by my ancestors after her parents had been murdered by robbers, when they were in Poland, waiting to be allowed into Russia.
My Mom's family isn't quite so labyrinthine. My Paternal Grandfather's people had concentrated on both sides of the Bavarian-Austrian border, and were fire breathing Catholics. While my maternal Grandmother had had roots in West Prussia. Because my Grandma was Lutheran, my Catholic Great Grandmother was certain that that Prussian girl was going to turn her boy into a Lutheran. He didn't convert, but he allowed his children to be brought up as Lutherans.
Sorry to have diarrhea of the typing fingers again, but as I've said before, history is an obsession of mine, and no one has an obsession like an Aspie!
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer