llel11 wrote:
I live in the U.S. Most of the people I am talking about were suffocatingly pretentious then which I really didn't notice but oddly they are suffocatingly pretentious now still. They still wear manic panic and leather and ride motorcycles...they never switched out of almighty me the coolest in all the land even if they had kids, which is mandatory for most people. I find it really bizarre to watch people 50 and over still clinging to junkie cool. To me it's silly but they don't seem to notice that. Honestly I didn't really even know the Clash were true punks when they came out but somewhere a long the way they became punk godhead. It's okay if you think they suck, to me they are in history and I don't really care, I was not attached to them though I did like them THEN, as a band, not as any subgenre of music. I am just talking as someone with the aspie like qualities that make you awkward and at odds with 'coolness' and being able to fit in, these people of all the ones I have encountered in life, are always the ones to point it out and make you feel like crap the quickest and loudest way possible. I think, honestly, it's because they are so stinking insecure themselves and that pseudo hipness is all they have. Every time I hear someone waxing on about Iggy Pop I literally want to retch, and not because of anything having to do with his music,, it's just because I know they are most likely the kind of person that enjoys making fun of people who are socially awkward.
I was just joking about The Clash. I don't really think they suck.
Ah ok. I'm only 26 and wasn't there. I also don't live in London, which is where most of it was concentrated. There wasn't as much of a scene up here. Obviously, there was one, but not as big or cool at the time (the whole 'Manchester music scene' hadn't really started). I don't really mind what clothes people wear at any age, but I know what you mean about pretentious exclusionary people. In the UK, the punk scene is one of the few that really isn't like that (outside of London, anyway).
Mod revivalists, on the other hand, are sometimes kind of like what you talk about. I mean, the ones who actually still associate with the movement, not the people who did it in the late 70s for a bit and have since never quite shaken the dress sense off (they are quite numerous up here). I also don't mean the people who go and see the crappy 70s mod revival groups and are happy to not be real mods...I mean the type who actually, seriously think they are mods from the early 60s (even though they were a baby back then) - ones who would be 'faces' at that. They type that won't listen to The Kinks because it's not mod enough. I guess that's always been the true spirit of mod, though - being exclusive.
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