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01 Jun 2009, 3:08 pm

Okay, so I got this program called Instant Immersion French. I may need some help with this. First off, how do you say/pronounce "peux"?



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01 Jun 2009, 3:16 pm

My french is very outdated and out of practice, so someone correct me if i'm wrong.

but peux (can) should be pronunced similar to p'you (sorry, my ability to get across enunciation is terrible, like what you'd say if something stunk, peeyooo, just kinda take out the hard e sound.)
Maybe its suppose to be more like 'poo'. Hmm, even I need a little clarification i think =P


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01 Jun 2009, 3:33 pm

No that is horrible pronunciation... 'poo' :p


Everytime I heard someone pronounce a word, with '-eux' in it, like that (poo, doo , dangeroo etc.) i wanted to rip my hair out.

I can't record a pronunciation for you right now, but here's a song in which you can hear it, it's right at the beginning, so pay attention or you might miss it ;) (I made the lyrics where you'll need to pay attention bold and made the words with the right pronunciation red):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP9Pnl6npQs[/youtube]

Ne touche pas.

Si tu veux regarder ça ne me gêne pas.
Et tu peux écouter si tu restes là-bas.
Tu l'as vu tu le veux mais le truc est à moi.
Oui je sais dans tes rêves tout le monde est à
toi.


I suppose in simple speak, it's pronounced similar to the 'uh' in 'uhhhh I don't knowwww'...
but with a 'p' in front. But listen to the song and you'll get it right with practice:)

I also recommend, for the sake of learning pronunciation, to listen to French songs and sing along with them (whilst looking at the lyrics of course).



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01 Jun 2009, 3:39 pm

I'd say "pew" (as in Pepe Le Pew :p), and if the next word starts with a vowel you squeeze a "z" in between


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01 Jun 2009, 4:14 pm

eux=ø, I do believe. It occurs in many European languages, but is totally absent from English.


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12 Jun 2009, 9:01 am

The best way I can type that is "p-uh." French is my first language despite my Southern accent.



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12 Jun 2009, 9:14 am

twoshots wrote:
eux=ø, I do believe. It occurs in many European languages, but is totally absent from English.


jErk

dIrt

sUrge

all these have the Ø/PEUX sound

jØrk, dØrt, sØrge, peux = pø


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12 Jun 2009, 2:22 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
jErk

dIrt

sUrge

all these have the Ø/PEUX sound

If you mean those English words, then while wikipedia does indicate that that vowel occurs in New Zealand and South African English, but OP is from Canada. In most North American dialects, all of those vowels would be pronounced as a mid central, unrounded, rhotic vowel, which to my ears is completely different from Ø (a close-mid, frontal, rounded, nonrhotic vowel).


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12 Jun 2009, 4:19 pm

twoshots wrote:
ZEGH8578 wrote:
jErk

dIrt

sUrge

all these have the Ø/PEUX sound

If you mean those English words, then while wikipedia does indicate that that vowel occurs in New Zealand and South African English, but OP is from Canada. In most North American dialects, all of those vowels would be pronounced as a mid central, unrounded, rhotic vowel, which to my ears is completely different from Ø (a close-mid, frontal, rounded, nonrhotic vowel).


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its not "completely different".
P and L are "completely different"

to me "dirt" and "ø" sounds identical, and i got the letter in my name, so ive heard it many times.
if it has a technical difference, then it is microscopic, and definitely not "completely different"

in fact, norwegians automatically recognize that french sound as Ø. they dont associate the english words w ø, cus english always uses other letters for it, E or U or I or whatever.
french typically uses "eu". i also see "oe" as other international alternatives. røros = roeros.


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12 Jun 2009, 5:18 pm

French people sound ghey. :P




Sorry, that's my first reaction whenever I hear it spoken. :lmao:


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12 Jun 2009, 5:28 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
to me "dirt" and "ø" sounds identical, and i got the letter in my name, so ive heard it many times.
if it has a technical difference, then it is microscopic, and definitely not "completely different"

Well, how they are perceived would depend on what languages one speaks. Although I can think of no language distinguishing both sounds, analyzed objectively they differ phonetically in at least as many ways as say the vowels in English peat vs pit. I'm surprised that they are perceived similarly to a speaker of Norwegian (although I suppose I shouldn't be considering that ir etc. is realized as something similar to Ø in the above dialects of English). I guess I can't know how they'd be perceived by a speaker of French, although French has a somewhat richer vowel system (if ɝ sounds like Ø, might it also sound like the distinct if similar œ? That would introduce some ambiguity...)


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12 Jun 2009, 5:55 pm

Peux is not pronounced like Poo or Pew.
I'm not sure how to explain how to pronounce it, but you can hear it in that youtube video.

Learning a language on your own is hard, so if it's at all possible, try getting at least a few French, or at least try to talk to someone who speaks French every once in a while so you don't get into bad habits.



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12 Jun 2009, 6:05 pm

Meh, French reminds me of when I was taking it at school in an accelerated program and the teacher tried to kick me off the course because he said I was "too quiet and so didn't deserve a place on the course".

Anyway, I believe it's pronounced like "puh", with quite a short "uh" sound.


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13 Jun 2009, 12:49 pm

It's closer to how you say "per," as in "per doctor's orders." Except you don't enunciate the rr sound as much. I'm fairly fluent in French, if you need help.



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13 Jun 2009, 5:01 pm

-points at location- 100% bilingual here <.< and if it helps, i've noticed the "eu" sounds kinda like the "uhhhhhh" (as in when you hesitate) sound you'd said in english , with just a graver accent on the E . We say basicly the same thing when we hesitate anyway =/ Like "Euhhh.....".

And what's more i'm a mix of french and quebec, so the accent is also a mix, at least it's not terrible.



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13 Jun 2009, 5:10 pm

I'd pronounce it similar to the Italian "piu" (there's meant to be an accent over the "u", but I don't know how to put accents when I'm typing). But I'm not sure, I'm not that good at French.


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