what does the military do to you???

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19 Sep 2009, 8:52 am

you enlist all laid back and easy going and when you come home from being deployed or whatever, you're all straight-laced and hard-nosed - even in non-professional situations.

I think it changes people for the worse. Someone who was once your friend and buddy is a different person state-side.



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19 Sep 2009, 10:13 am

I guess the discipline thing, yeah, and if you kill someone or get into some messed up stressful violent situations then that could of course have some long term mental effects.



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19 Sep 2009, 11:09 am

and that's another thing: killing in the name of ideology.



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19 Sep 2009, 12:21 pm

Tha fact that there's a military maken me angry.
Let adolescent boys fight in sports if they want, war is an insane business.



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19 Sep 2009, 5:47 pm

Well, it will train you in matters like discipline, marksmanship, weapon maintenance, squad tactics, and so on. It will then send you to Iraq or Afghanistan where you will get messed up in the head, and when you come home with PTSD, the military will say you're fine. That's the military.



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19 Sep 2009, 6:12 pm

...and addiction to something like alcohol or cocaine.



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19 Sep 2009, 7:36 pm

angelicgoddess wrote:
Tha fact that there's a military maken me angry.
Let adolescent boys fight in sports if they want, war is an insane business.


I am happy with the U.S. military. Without them I would have ended up as a cake of soap on some Nazi's bathtub or bathroom sink.

This may come as a surprise, but sometimes it is necessary to fight the Bad Guys. The alternative is being killed or enslaved.

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19 Sep 2009, 8:01 pm

or, if we'd have stayed out of other people's business...

Granted, they attacked us first but we should have just launched a retaliatory strike and called it good. But, if we weren't perceived as a threat, we wouldn't have been touched. But the US being the way it is, we have to play the world's big brother. Just got us a bloody nose is all. The military should exist solely to protect our shores and not get involved in other people's BS and bickering.



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19 Sep 2009, 8:09 pm

It's all about the money.

* World military expenditure in 2008 is estimated to have reached $1.464 trillion in current dollars
* This represents a 4 per cent increase in real terms since 2007 and a 45 per cent increase over the 10-year period since 1999;
* This corresponds to 2.4 per cent of world gross domestic product (GDP), or $217 for each person in the world;
* The USA with its massive spending budget, is the principal determinant of the current world trend, and its military expenditure now accounts for just under half of the world total, at 41.5% of the world total;

someone is getting very rich and it's not anyone holding a gun.



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12 Oct 2009, 9:46 pm

Wherever you live, whatever you do, you are immersed in your life, and it's culture and behaviour. This includes the military. You're exposed to an environment of strict adherence to certain rules 24/7, and certain behaviour, and so can be expected to remain the same when out of that environment.



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12 Oct 2009, 9:54 pm

digger1 wrote:
or, if we'd have stayed out of other people's business...

Granted, they attacked us first but we should have just launched a retaliatory strike and called it good. But, if we weren't perceived as a threat, we wouldn't have been touched. But the US being the way it is, we have to play the world's big brother. Just got us a bloody nose is all. The military should exist solely to protect our shores and not get involved in other people's BS and bickering.


ROFL!

Poles were no threat to Germans.

Bosnians were REALLY no threat to Serbs. (They didn't even have a military in April 1992 for f**k's sake!)

Tutsis were no threat to Hutus.

Armenians were no threat to Turks.

And yet they got attacked and wiped out.

Yes my boy, it doesn't take two to start a fight. Sometimes it only takes one.