Why you should never talk to the police

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06 Sep 2009, 9:54 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE&feature=related[/youtube]

It's funny how this "if you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing to fear" train-of-thought has gone unchallenged for so long and remains common sense to most people. Don't worry, you get to hear from the other side, too. It's a long lecture, but by God is it an important one, every person should be made to watch this in school.



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06 Sep 2009, 10:39 am

Thanks for posting this!



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06 Sep 2009, 12:44 pm

that was awesome! shows real well how manipulative the cops are :p

that's what I always say to people, to not talk to the police because the police is freakin evil. they have the right to lie to you about anything and they love it. the "good cop" stereotype is a total myth.


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07 Sep 2009, 11:09 am

All of my dealings with the police have been good. :/

I've had to interact with them a lot, and they're actually the easiest people for me to interact with; matter-of-fact and straight to the point.



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07 Sep 2009, 12:15 pm

^^sure, as long as you're just a witness they are exactly as you said. but the moment they start suspecting you they start playing mind games which are impossible to win unless you're one of the "bad guys" :wink:


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07 Sep 2009, 12:58 pm

Very instructive. I have resolved that I am never going to any more the the police than truthfully identify myself. All they will get from me is name, rank and serial number.

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07 Sep 2009, 3:27 pm

Great videos. Definitely ought to be shown in schools (though I'm not going to hold my breath for that to happen). How many people know that cops can legally lie to them, I don't know. And, in America at least, cop culture seems to make them hate everyone who isn't one of them, which makes this stuff even worse.

I just wonder what cops do to people who remain silent from the outset.


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07 Sep 2009, 3:54 pm

ruveyn wrote:
All they will get from me is name, rank and serial number.

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I don't think the Geneva Conventions will do you much good! It might get a chuckle out of the cops, though! :lol:

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but the moment they start suspecting you they start playing mind games which are impossible to win


Well, they're impossible to win if you play their game, meaning if you respond to any questions. For example, the cop in this lecture gave a real nice example, the "do you know how fast you were going?" thing. You think you're being polite and being honest by answering, but you're really hanging yourself by confessing to the crime.

I'm lucky enough to live in a country where the entire capital city has been designated a free-for-all zone for the police, so they don't even need suspicion to search people. So because of specific incidents, everyone's a criminal. When I hear my fellow Europeans talk about the woes of America, that's all I can think about. Come to think of it, apart from them having the right to indiscriminately search people without suspicion, I wonder how much else they can do. That's where I run into a problem the professor brought up: The law is virtually unreadable and insanely complicated to the average person, so even if I tried reading up on recent changes to the laws regarding police searches and so forth, I would have little success because most of it is written in what I guess can only be called Newspeak.