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24 Jan 2010, 6:06 am

Depression is just a mood, not a disorder, anxiety disorder is just a feeling, "rape trauma syndrome?" it's just that something has happened to the person, it doesn't make a difference in the brain just because of that. Manic depression is acceptable though, but I think many of the disorders mentioned in the DSM should be removed, mankind has suffered from "Illnesses" for generations, I don't think one needs to classify stress, anxiety and depression as "disorders".



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24 Jan 2010, 6:16 am

OF COURSE people experience anxiety, depression, etc. without a disorder.

It's chronic anxiety, depression, etc. which makes it a life-interfering disorder.



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24 Jan 2010, 6:27 am

You clearly have no idea what real depression and anxiety disorders are. They are orders of magnitude worse than everyday sadness and worry.


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24 Jan 2010, 6:33 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
You clearly have no idea what real depression and anxiety disorders are. They are orders of magnitude worse than everyday sadness and worry.


You're the one that doesn't get it, people are too concerned about each other health, that's why all these feelings are classified as disorders, they're probably going to invent the "Sad mood disorder" eventually.



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24 Jan 2010, 6:49 am

You're entitled to your opinion; that said, I thoroughly disagree. In all things, it is a matter of degree... as was said in the first response, if i'm not mistaken. While you may not be able to comprehend such things, that does not mean they do not exist.


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24 Jan 2010, 7:04 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
You're the one that doesn't get it, people are too concerned about each other health, that's why all these feelings are classified as disorders, they're probably going to invent the "Sad mood disorder" eventually.

Add "chronic" and you basically have depression. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove with your example, as it doesn't conflict with any of the replies disagreeing with you.



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24 Jan 2010, 7:06 am

Lecks wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
You're the one that doesn't get it, people are too concerned about each other health, that's why all these feelings are classified as disorders, they're probably going to invent the "Sad mood disorder" eventually.

Add "chronic" and you basically have depression. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove with your example, as it doesn't conflict with any of the replies disagreeing with you.


I don't try to make an argument, I just want to give my opinion on this, I DO think it's ridiculous that more "Illnesses" get invented, it's probably just to strenghten a psychologists self image and make them think they're perfect.



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24 Jan 2010, 7:12 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Lecks wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
You're the one that doesn't get it, people are too concerned about each other health, that's why all these feelings are classified as disorders, they're probably going to invent the "Sad mood disorder" eventually.

Add "chronic" and you basically have depression. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove with your example, as it doesn't conflict with any of the replies disagreeing with you.


I don't try to make an argument, I just want to give my opinion on this, I DO think it's ridiculous that more "Illnesses" get invented, it's probably just to strenghten a psychologists self image and make them think they're perfect.

A rather ignorant opinion. Depression and anxiety disorders etc. can really affect someone's life. They being in the DSM brings awareness-- diagnosis and then treatment and help. This is what matters, not that it's labeled an "illness" as you say.



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24 Jan 2010, 7:17 am

buryuntime wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Lecks wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
You're the one that doesn't get it, people are too concerned about each other health, that's why all these feelings are classified as disorders, they're probably going to invent the "Sad mood disorder" eventually.

Add "chronic" and you basically have depression. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove with your example, as it doesn't conflict with any of the replies disagreeing with you.


I don't try to make an argument, I just want to give my opinion on this, I DO think it's ridiculous that more "Illnesses" get invented, it's probably just to strenghten a psychologists self image and make them think they're perfect.

A rather ignorant opinion. Depression and anxiety disorders etc. can really affect someone's life. They being in the DSM brings awareness-- diagnosis and then treatment and help. This is what matters, not that it's labeled an "illness" as you say.


"Depressed" and "anxious" people are really just a bit more sad or worried than others, it's probably just hormones.

You rarely notice "depressed" and "anxious" people, they have very successful lives and are happy.



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24 Jan 2010, 7:26 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
buryuntime wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Lecks wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
You're the one that doesn't get it, people are too concerned about each other health, that's why all these feelings are classified as disorders, they're probably going to invent the "Sad mood disorder" eventually.

Add "chronic" and you basically have depression. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove with your example, as it doesn't conflict with any of the replies disagreeing with you.


I don't try to make an argument, I just want to give my opinion on this, I DO think it's ridiculous that more "Illnesses" get invented, it's probably just to strenghten a psychologists self image and make them think they're perfect.

A rather ignorant opinion. Depression and anxiety disorders etc. can really affect someone's life. They being in the DSM brings awareness-- diagnosis and then treatment and help. This is what matters, not that it's labeled an "illness" as you say.


"Depressed" and "anxious" people are really just a bit more sad or worried than others, it's probably just hormones.

You rarely notice "depressed" and "anxious" people, they have very successful lives and are happy.

I do not agree. How is someone who can't leave their house okay (agoraphobia)? How is someone depressed okay, who can't do anything but stay in bed all day(depression)? It's not "just a bit more".



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24 Jan 2010, 7:26 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
buryuntime wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Lecks wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
You're the one that doesn't get it, people are too concerned about each other health, that's why all these feelings are classified as disorders, they're probably going to invent the "Sad mood disorder" eventually.

Add "chronic" and you basically have depression. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove with your example, as it doesn't conflict with any of the replies disagreeing with you.


I don't try to make an argument, I just want to give my opinion on this, I DO think it's ridiculous that more "Illnesses" get invented, it's probably just to strenghten a psychologists self image and make them think they're perfect.

A rather ignorant opinion. Depression and anxiety disorders etc. can really affect someone's life. They being in the DSM brings awareness-- diagnosis and then treatment and help. This is what matters, not that it's labeled an "illness" as you say.


"Depressed" and "anxious" people are really just a bit more sad or worried than others, it's probably just hormones.

You rarely notice "depressed" and "anxious" people, they have very successful lives and are happy.


NO THEY ARE NOT. I've had clinical depression, and it's more than just "feeling sad". You feel completely rotten or empty all the time, you lose interest in everything, you're tired all the time, everything you do is slowed down, you can't focus on anything or make decisions; you can barely drag yourself out of bed in the morning.

It's more than just a feeling.


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24 Jan 2010, 7:38 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
buryuntime wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Lecks wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
You're the one that doesn't get it, people are too concerned about each other health, that's why all these feelings are classified as disorders, they're probably going to invent the "Sad mood disorder" eventually.

Add "chronic" and you basically have depression. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove with your example, as it doesn't conflict with any of the replies disagreeing with you.


I don't try to make an argument, I just want to give my opinion on this, I DO think it's ridiculous that more "Illnesses" get invented, it's probably just to strenghten a psychologists self image and make them think they're perfect.

A rather ignorant opinion. Depression and anxiety disorders etc. can really affect someone's life. They being in the DSM brings awareness-- diagnosis and then treatment and help. This is what matters, not that it's labeled an "illness" as you say.


"Depressed" and "anxious" people are really just a bit more sad or worried than others, it's probably just hormones.

You rarely notice "depressed" and "anxious" people, they have very successful lives and are happy.


NO THEY ARE NOT. I've had clinical depression, and it's more than just "feeling sad". You feel completely rotten or empty all the time, you lose interest in everything, you're tired all the time, everything you do is slowed down, you can't focus on anything or make decisions; you can barely drag yourself out of bed in the morning.

It's more than just a feeling.


I have also had days when I feel like staying in bed all day, but I still wake up and do my duties.



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24 Jan 2010, 7:40 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
buryuntime wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Lecks wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
You're the one that doesn't get it, people are too concerned about each other health, that's why all these feelings are classified as disorders, they're probably going to invent the "Sad mood disorder" eventually.

Add "chronic" and you basically have depression. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove with your example, as it doesn't conflict with any of the replies disagreeing with you.


I don't try to make an argument, I just want to give my opinion on this, I DO think it's ridiculous that more "Illnesses" get invented, it's probably just to strenghten a psychologists self image and make them think they're perfect.

A rather ignorant opinion. Depression and anxiety disorders etc. can really affect someone's life. They being in the DSM brings awareness-- diagnosis and then treatment and help. This is what matters, not that it's labeled an "illness" as you say.


"Depressed" and "anxious" people are really just a bit more sad or worried than others, it's probably just hormones.

You rarely notice "depressed" and "anxious" people, they have very successful lives and are happy.


NO THEY ARE NOT. I've had clinical depression, and it's more than just "feeling sad". You feel completely rotten or empty all the time, you lose interest in everything, you're tired all the time, everything you do is slowed down, you can't focus on anything or make decisions; you can barely drag yourself out of bed in the morning.

It's more than just a feeling.


I have also had days when I feel like staying in bed all day, but I still wake up and do my duties.


Thoses are called "bad days". For it to be diagnosable as depression it has to last for at least 2 weeks, and be present more days than not.
In my case it lasted for years. I kept getting out of bed and doing what I had to do until everything finally collapsed.


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24 Jan 2010, 7:40 am

I have read about many successful people who have so-called disorders, they smile, laugh, and seem completely fine, they just feel itty bitty sad or afraid on the inside.



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24 Jan 2010, 7:43 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
I have read about many successful people who have so-called disorders, they smile, laugh, and seem completely fine, they just feel itty bitty sad or afraid on the inside.


It's possible to smile and laugh while still suffering; all smiling is is the movement of some muscles. It's called acting.


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24 Jan 2010, 7:50 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
I have read about many successful people who have so-called disorders, they smile, laugh, and seem completely fine, they just feel itty bitty sad or afraid on the inside.


It's possible to smile and laugh while still suffering; all smiling is is the movement of some muscles. It's called acting.


There's no need for acting, people who have those disorders are mainly successful, the only difference is that they feel the feelings somewhat more or over a longer period of time than others, that's why I think they should be removed, they're so unecessary.