gi guys, I managed to get the pollice to diagnose me!

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29 Jun 2010, 10:41 pm

hi guys, I stopped by the police the other day and I'm on my way to getting my health sorted out. I solved the buggers muddle in English rights of law that let me. So it looks l.Ike I am going to be diagnosed by a jury of my own peers as they seem to be more intelligent than the doctors.! !! !

I may also sett a a case that some other people can benefit from, and hopefully have a good look at the health service and the doctors, because it should not be up to the police for them to do their jobs.


doing it this way has been hallowing, because as I've released what the buggers muddle meant, I knew that it was put there for me, and for me to solve and in doing so be granted my freedom.

I only thought this worked in my dreams and not in the real world, I now know that I was dreaming of reality.



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29 Jun 2010, 10:56 pm

:scratch:



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30 Jun 2010, 1:17 am

What does "buggers muddle" mean? And why would the police diagnose you? Did you happen to run afoul of the law sometime in the past?



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30 Jun 2010, 1:53 am

IdahoRose wrote:
What does "buggers muddle" mean? And why would the police diagnose you? Did you happen to run afoul of the law sometime in the past?


built into the law are trip switches (certainy in the UK), the buggers muddle is working out what to say when you don't know what to say.

I would never have describe myself as running foul of the law, in-fact they've always been very assistant. (because I usually trip a few switches on my way).


I'm basically just saying if ever your in contact with the law, be yourself, don't pretend to do what a 'typical' would do because you think you should or whatever. The law has built in self covariance and is designed to detect things such as some ASD ways of thinking that may some times give you a leg up, or indeed mean that you have to get your diagnosis sorted out so you can get off a minor offence.



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30 Jun 2010, 2:17 am

uh...have you been burying people in your basement or hacking Nasa? Cause the last thread that I read on that got a little...um, passionate...



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30 Jun 2010, 2:44 am

Wuffles wrote:
uh...have you been burying people in your basement or hacking Nasa? Cause the last thread that I read on that got a little...um, passionate...


nope, nothing that controversial. (well possibly not!).
been trying to get my diagnose and meds sorted out with the shrink for years, been trough hell an back. I'm well known locally and everyone likes me usually from day one. Had a few minor meetings with the law in the past, often nothing to do with me, or I'd one nothing wrong. on he odd one occasion that I did have a bit of a run in it was fairly obvious I wasn't you 'typical' wrong doer, and would get off it it went much futher.

This time, as they've know about some of the problems I've had, and I'm a pretty smart and talented guy, not the kind of person you usually see out of work etc... getting food out of bins or whatever.

So to sort things out properly, I'm being run though the legal system to get my status and diagnosis and treatment sorted properly and mean that people won't look at me and think, he's not in a wheel chair, he can't possibly have a serious disability or whatever.

I've know for a long time that because of the way I think I'm somewhat protected, but going through the whole process I was able to appreciate quite how well some of the tips had been put in place were put in place precisely for people who think the way that I do. it's like the system is saying they know you feel like your on the wrong planet, but your welcome her and we will look after you and keep you from harm,

It's very rare that I get any real kind of emotions, less fear/ anxiety. I only ever once in the past briefly felt understood and never before actually accepted for who I am. If it happens to you, you realize that someone, somewhere has left you a very special gift should you ever need to open it. and one that you can't possibly miss.



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30 Jun 2010, 4:09 am

Good luck.


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30 Jun 2010, 5:15 am

Hi oliverthered,
the phrase buggers muddle is new to me, I see the dictionary say in means messed up, misguided or confused. The police are often drawn to innocent people who appear to be unusual, even in case where no criminality is involved. That has happened to me and I find it very destructive (^ weeks sick leave from work at present).

When you refer to "English rights of law" is this a reference to common law as opposed to statute law? There is a defence in common law know by the Latin tag of Mens Rea. It says that to be convicted of an offence you should have a guilty mind - but I cannot see that is relevant if you are just speaking to the police.

Typically the police's knowledge of there matter is close to nil, so I'd suggest maintaining close contact with doctors and keeping away from the police.


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30 Jun 2010, 6:35 am

Euclid wrote:
Hi oliverthered,
the phrase buggers muddle is new to me, I see the dictionary say in means messed up, misguided or confused. The police are often drawn to innocent people who appear to be unusual, even in case where no criminality is involved. That has happened to me and I find it very destructive (^ weeks sick leave from work at present).

When you refer to "English rights of law" is this a reference to common law as opposed to statute law? There is a defence in common law know by the Latin tag of Mens Rea. It says that to be convicted of an offence you should have a guilty mind - but I cannot see that is relevant if you are just speaking to the police.

Typically the police's knowledge of there matter is close to nil, so I'd suggest maintaining close contact with doctors and keeping away from the police.


In my ten years+ (26 if you count the time I went when I was 6), the doctors knowledge has been significantly at fault, in-fact they have made more errors than truths, they put me on medication for 5 years that chemically lobotomized me and I had 7 months of discontinuation syndrome.

On the other had, police deal with all kind of people all the time. They know what a criminal looks like compared to someone with aspergers. not only that the legal system is designed to detect such people, they stand out like a saw thumb. Unlike normal, scary, people the police have to obey and follow a strict set of rules. Now I can easily run rings around any set of rules like that. That's because there put in place in such a way that any 'normal' person either would not notice them, or would not be able to follow through.

The bugger's muddle, is the criminal rights you are given before being questioned or as part of.
It's a bugger's muddle because its impossible to answer, without the law actually breaching your rights, because it's impossible to answer otherwise.

'normal' people would either not be able to answer them in a correct way (which would either mean they had breached their rights or were lying) or would just answer them in the way normal people would.

The criminal system can efficiently identify a certain group of people with 3 simple (or not so simple) questions.

As part of the process I'll have to get my diagnosis changed, and that will be arranged by my solicitor not the police. That has already been put in-place because the police called a doctor out at 4am because they felt I may have a medical condition that met I could not be held or questioned.

I think you'll find the police are actually some what more tooled up and equipped for a fast accurate diagnoses, much quicker than the medical profession can roll out.

I'm not talking to the police, I'm going through the process of having my medical condition recognized in law. and recognised in such a way that I cannot be held or questioned again, because to do so would breach my rights.



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30 Jun 2010, 6:43 am

Let us know how it goes. :)


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01 Jul 2010, 6:56 pm

bugger.
one who bugs, a bugger is someone who bugs you.
a muddle is a confusion or mess.

so a bugger's muddle, is a confusion or mess put their by someone who was bugging you.


someone asking me about my rights, is therefor bugging me.
but what they say is a confusion or mess to me, so it is a muddle.

so in answering them, /I would have had to solve their muddle.

the muddle is such, that no answering is not a solution to the muddle.