God bless our Servicemen and women!

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18 Apr 2006, 11:17 pm

I want to start this thread for all of us to give our troops Godspeed and thanks. Without them there would be no freedom in the USA. Please everyone keep the troops here at home or abroad in our thoughts and prayers.
I must ask everyone to please DO NOT post about whether or not you agree with the war or anything like that because this is not the thread to do it. It is simply giving our troops our thanks



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19 Apr 2006, 12:32 am

My daughter's friend Derek was wounded in Irag, and another friend of hers Salem Barak was just killed there. Her husband is being deployed around October. Very scarry as he is wonderful and I love him very much.



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20 Apr 2006, 11:43 pm

I'd like to bless both the Canadian and American Troops. I think that these young Men and Women are doing us a great service.



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21 Apr 2006, 5:51 am

If a god exists, I do not think he/she/it would bless any war/violence/killing. Also note that Saddam Hussein also asked for gods blessing. BOTH sides of the conflict believe that god is on their side.

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"God foiled the aggression and the aggressors and, thanks be to God, we only suffered light losses in the failed attack. May God bless the souls of our honorable martyrs. God is greater, God is greater."
-- Saddam Hussein in 1996


And which side is wrong about god being on their side? They are both wrong.

Even if a god exists, a person who claims that god is on his side but not on his enemy's side is displaying mental immaturity.

I am not making any comment about the rightness or wrongness of the war. I am only commenting on the ill-conceived religious aspect.



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21 Apr 2006, 6:11 am

I'm not entirely sure what the point of this thread is, this being a debating forum. Could someone enlighten me?



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21 Apr 2006, 6:37 am

Tequila wrote:
I'm not entirely sure what the point of this thread is, this being a debating forum. Could someone enlighten me?


I believe the person who started this thread intends it to be a pro troop/pro troop-deployment thread.



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21 Apr 2006, 7:13 am

Well then, it's a bit pointless, in my opinion. Unless we're all going to sit here 'praising the troops' while they meet a bloody end in some warring Iraqi hellhole.

I'm not particularly interested in another boring pro-war/anti-war debate, either.



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21 Apr 2006, 8:55 am

I agree with Tequila that it is pointless, and the reason why is because no troops will be reading this thread here on WP, so yes, what IS the point? There is none, it is a useless topic.



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21 Apr 2006, 9:06 am

I am very grateful, proud and humbled by the service of those in our armed forces. Many of them sign up for a variety of reasons and end up giving their all in the call of duty. This is a self-sacrificial obligation that service men and women have undertaken. I think that is very noble and I admire them. Without people who are willing to risk their comfort and sometimes their lives, we would not be Americans today. While it is fun to moralize about the evils of war, it is unrealistic. While we all wish that the peoples of the world could sit together and calmly and reasonably reach agreements on every issue, this will probably never happen. There will always be conflict and sometimes this conflict will result in hostilities. Someone must take the responsibility to fight for and defend their country. In doing so they are really fighting for the things that they believe in and love; their families, friends and way of life. I do thank God for our armed services personel and their friends and families who support and love them and I pray for His guidance and protection of them. I owe them my gratitude and best wishes.


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21 Apr 2006, 9:40 am

Bland wrote:
While it is fun to moralize about the evils of war, it is unrealistic.

I shudder at the thought of a person who thinks that it is only a matter of "fun" to discuss the morality of war and that it has no bearing on reality.

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I do thank God ...

It is easy to forget about morality or dismiss it as merely a "fun" game/triviality when you have god on your side. A god who conveniently validates any choice you want to make. It sure must be nice to have a god who always agrees with what you think.

But just remember: The other side has god on their side as well. For every time you thanked god, someone on the other side also thanked god. So the situation we have here is 2 opposing sides who continually thank and praise god, they both think that god condones their war against the other side. What a farce.

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"This is going to be a glorious day. The Iraqi people will, in the name of God, add to their honorable record. It will be a day when the cowardly aggressors will be condemned by both history and the whole world, having been condemned by God Almighty."
-- Saddam Hussein


N.B.: This is not to be interpreted as support for Saddam Hussein. I do NOT support or defend him. I am just saying that on account of BOTH sides, the religious aspect is a farce.



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21 Apr 2006, 9:42 am

I'm sorry that you seem to be so easily upset about other's beliefs in and about God.....
but that's not really what this thread is about. :roll:


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21 Apr 2006, 9:59 am

I hate that. The topic of discussion is something that should not have any religious aspect, and then some Christian comes along and adds his 2 cents while saying god this, and god that, and god bless, and god alf***ingmighty is the greatest I want to sleep with him and his babies, and then when you complain about it, they look at you all innocent and wide-eyed and say, "But I was not being religious! This isn't about god!"

Bland wrote:
I'm sorry that you seem to be so easily upset about other's beliefs in and about God.....
but that's not really what this thread is about.


You are CORRECT! So why did you bring god into it? And why did jaguars_fan say "God bless" and "Godspeed" and ask for prayer? The war should not have any religious aspect, and yet throughout the entire history of Christianity we have these war-mongering Christians who continually think that god condones and supports their wars. It is appalling behavior and I hope that in future, Christians can learn to govern themselves in a more appropriate, ethical, and moral manner.



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21 Apr 2006, 10:01 am

Thanks for sharing your opinions and your disdain for other's religious beliefs. :roll:


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21 Apr 2006, 10:17 am

Disdain for other's religious beliefs is not really what this is about. I could be respectful of your religious beliefs if they truly were religious (spiritual) beliefs. However, they are NOT spiritual beliefs, as evidenced by the fact that Christians continually involve their religion in wars and in politics and in government and in education (Christianity is nearly ALL politics!).

Look, if your religion truly was about spirituality, you would have every right to tell me to piss off and keep my nose out of your religion. Unfortunately, there is very little spirituality in Christianity. Although I should acknowledge that there ARE a few Christians who DO truly see it as a matter of spirituality -- these ones do not mix it with politics and wars.

Take Buddhism for example. I am not a Buddhist. I think Buddhism is baloney. HOWEVER, very rarely do I complain about Buddhism because they do not or have far less involvement in wars and politics. I am respectful of Buddhism even though I do not agree with it. They are more focused on spirituality, whereas most Christians do not even understand what spirituality is. Buddhism does not have the war-mongering mentality of Christianity.



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21 Apr 2006, 11:25 am

Emp this thread was so not about you. Jaguars_fan was just expressing gratitude towards our troops and what they are trying to do over there. As I said, my son in law is heading there, and I appreciated the kind thoughts. My goodness, someone mentions God and you get all up in arms...calm down. We Chrisitians are not out to get you, so you can go ahead and not feel so threatened by us.



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21 Apr 2006, 12:53 pm

Paula I will def say a prayer for your son in law.

Oh Emp did this thread really require your idiotic pollution on here?