The Natascha Kampusch kidnap case

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It seems there's another Austrian person that thinks like myself about this suspicious case:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1667355/boa ... #220035481

Anyone else who has heard about this case?

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There is something seriously wrong here.

She could be delusional from years of captivity, or she could have been from the beginning, before he kidnapped her.

Sylkat

Fusako Sano, the kidnapped girl from Japan, was abducted at 10, too, and after 9 years spent in captivity, still behaved like a child. Anyway, let's be sincere: Natascha is presented by those who know her privately, as someone liking to boss around and a bit bitchy; she writes herself in her book at one point that that both herself and the kidnapper knew he had chosen a wrong person to kidnap - she was always doing her best to fight back - is a person with such a psychological profile able to let another person brainwash them? I don't think so.

Dont know about it. Did never have to walk in her shoes, not even in quite comparable shoes. So I hardly can think of any opinion of me, that decides if a girl that was kidnapped at 9 years old, should by all means always act in a way that seems normal to others, or may be excused to have some behavior, that might seem weird to others.

http://austriantimes.at/news/General_Ne ... s-newentry

Well, I read more on this and there are even more aspects of that case that intrigue me:

- Natascha DID give birth - there were little children's toys and clothes for little kids found - even assuming these would have belonged to her when she was young, she was still too old for those even at the time of the kidnap. There were also found shopping lists with such products on like a pelvis training device - one for women who gave birth - and cream preventing stretch marks. Another item from the list was Mickey Mouse comic books - when she was in her later teens, so not when she was still a preteen. She did basically tell the doctor that her pregnancy had occured but "it was such a long time ago". There were baby care books and they weren't from the time her captor was born, so it's not like he just brought her his mom's old books bought at the time she was an expecting mom when she expressed the wish to just get some knowledge on babies out of curiosity.

- She had long hair at the time she was found so all that "my captor made me shave my hair" statement is questionable - judging from the time of growing hair back, it's estimated that her head hadn't been shaved for at least 3 years. Anyway, if he really was so afraid there could remain traces of her presence in his house, then there is always that thing that there were found at home her clothes - slippers, bras, a bag etc.

- There was present a travel bag filled with her clothes and among them there was a bikini suit - she was out then - dungeons aren't the most proper places to wear a swimming suit. Maybe the captor took her out to a lake or a similar place. Anyway, speaking of their coming out together, they were seen near the flat of the captor's ' mom; the neighbor saw her wearing a headscarf he later recognized from her interview.

- It was proved that the ventilation system in the cellar didn't allow anyone to live in the basement for more that just a couple of days in the row - she would just die for the lack of oxygen and that's all one could say about this. Anyway, it was noticed her body and hair didn't excret that characteristic stench of a cellar, you know what I'm talking about.

- The whole "quarrel over a zucchini soup" thing - sorry but if her captor REALLY was a man like that he used to beat her up for anything, she wouldn't EVER quarrel with him about anything; she'd just clench her teeth and say: "ok, if you want me to prepare the soup in this way you like it, then ok, I will".

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Here in America we have a number of tragic cases where little girls, teen-aged girls, or young women have been held captive, the latest, discovered yesterday, was for fifteen years!

None of these survivors has behaved like Natascha.

Depends on a person; if it was me who would get kidnapped, I'd certainly do everything to get fame and become a celebrity for this. You are my compatriot so you know the infamous case of the disappearance of baby Magda W.; her mother - a baby killer - became a celebrity, so it seems you can become famous for basically anything. Anyway, the case of the disappearance of Natascha became so famous because when she disappeared back in the 90's, it WAS a very well known case back then, everybody in Austria knew about it, the same as if now Iwona Wieczorek was found in someone's cellar (Iwona was a very famous case of disappearance of a teen a couple of years ago, she was on the news all the time, quite like Maddie McCann only that Iwona was an adult). In Poland a young woman became a celebrity for faking her baby abduction, in Japan a man got fame for being a cannibal, in Austria in turn a woman got famous for being kidnapped. I bet it would be the same if a missing person was found, especially after so many years, in Poland - the more that there were no such cases in our country before.

Not exactly the same, but I always note the stories about people who supposedly lived lost in the wild for years, or were raised by wolves etc. Also the stories of Japanese soldiers who would not surrender (or supposedly did not know Japan had surrendered) and lived in the jungles of the Phillipines for 30 years.

There is also often an unbelieveable element in the stories, inconsistancies and sometimes they are hoaxes. A recent one, about 2 years ago was in Germany I believe, when a teenage boy walked out of the woods saying he had lived there alone with his father for many years, but the father died and he was rejoining civilization. It was a hoax and he was just a runaway from Berlin I believe.

But I do wonder if any could be true, especially being raised by animals, and what a person would be like. Its almost conceivable, as in documented cases where animals take on caring for babies of another species. In one recent case, an infant fell into a zoo enclosure and was knocked out by the fall. But an ape, I think it was a female orangutan, climbed down into the trench and took the baby back up to its habitat and for two hours would not give the baby up to the zookeepers. It finally had to be sedated by a dart gun and the baby recovered.

The forrest boy was a Dutchman. There was such quite a famous case in my country 7 years ago - a small boy disappeared after he went swimming in the river with his friends and no one knows what happened later - only his clothes were found. Some claim he got drowned (but then again, no body was found), some others say in turn that the 10 year old could get kidnapped to Germany (some fortunetellers said so; he got kidnapped and is raised by a German family, though logically thinking - he was way too old for such an adoption; he's not a baby) and the ones from the second group believed for a short time the red haired young man found in the forrest was the ginger-haired Pole.

Btw, I wonder why people don't want to believe Kampusch while almost everybody believes Shawn Hornbeck.

I read also that there were found videos of those two celebrating her birthdays and Christmas time together - it means someone had to film them. But who? Well, I'm not surprised no one believes Natascha.

I read that some neighbor saw them kissing at the threshold; he then went to his car and drove away, while she came back home - I bet she didn't come back to her dungeon to lock herself up

Another thing is that she most likely wasn't living with him for most of that time - his neighbor had the key to his house until 2003; his mom never heard anything from the dungeon which wouldn't be possible if someone really was down there and anyway, there were found lists of all things he bought for them both - the ones for Natascha started in 2003 - quite as if he tried to get back the money for everything he bought her - the question:"from whom"?