Is there anything more painful than popping out a kid?

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10 May 2012, 8:54 pm

Why do you think women are so willing to perpetuate the species?
How scary is it to the women here that might want a family, but haven't gone there yet?



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10 May 2012, 9:13 pm

I've had four kids, all vaginally and only had an epidural for one of them. I can tell you in all certainty that no, there is nothing more painful unless it's something like having a leg cut off. I've heard people compare kidney stones to childbirth but I have to laugh at that. It hurts. Bad. Very bad.


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10 May 2012, 9:21 pm

Terrifying.
The only good part of getting my period is knowing for sure I'm not looking that kind of pain down the barrel.
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10 May 2012, 9:24 pm

There's heaps of things more painful.

Go and pick up a box jellyfish if you want to feel some physical pain (you might die though). ;) Or how about stepping on a stonefish?



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10 May 2012, 9:26 pm

Dillogic wrote:
There's heaps of things more painful.

Go and pick up a box jellyfish if you want to feel some physical pain (you might die though). ;) Or how about stepping on a stonefish?


Are you a trans* man you has given birth before transitioning or are you just gleefully expounding from a place of ignorance?


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10 May 2012, 9:29 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
I've had four kids, all vaginally and only had an epidural for one of them. I can tell you in all certainty that no, there is nothing more painful unless it's something like having a leg cut off. I've heard people compare kidney stones to childbirth but I have to laugh at that. It hurts. Bad. Very bad.


I've never had children before but I always thought I'd be able to tolerate it. Sometimes I get really bad stomach aches or cramps where I crouch over in pain and feel nauseated at the same time and then I think of childbirth and think to myself if I can't even handle this, how am I ever going to be able to handle having a baby? I've had a miscarriage before and the cramps were really bad for a few hours.

My mum has had to be hospitalized for kidney stones and she did say it was worse than childbirth. It's probably different for everyone I guess.



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10 May 2012, 9:35 pm

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Are you a trans* man you has given birth before transitioning or are you just gleefully expounding from a place of ignorance?


No, I'm expounding facts.

Envenomation from a box jellyfish is probably the most painful experience one can go through.

Here's a quote from a woman who's been through both:

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"It's like when you're in labor, having a baby, and you've reached the peak of a contraction—that absolute peak—and you feel like you just can't do it anymore. That's the minimum that [Irukandji] pain is at, and it just builds from there."



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10 May 2012, 9:40 pm

Dillogic wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Are you a trans* man you has given birth before transitioning or are you just gleefully expounding from a place of ignorance?


No, I'm expounding facts.

Envenomation from a box jellyfish is probably the most painful experience one can go through.


Pain is relative to everyone though and you wouldn't know unles you experienced them both. Not to mention people can feel pain differently than other people.



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10 May 2012, 9:49 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
I've heard people compare kidney stones to childbirth but I have to laugh at that. It hurts. Bad. Very bad.


Have you had kidney stones? My sister has (and has children as well, otherwise I wouldn't put much stock in her opinion) and is one of those who compares it to childbirth. I've had them as well, and the pain has ranged from just pretty bad up to the point where I literally can't imagine worse pain.

As for the original question, I read somewhere that women tend to forget the pain of childbirth. That is, they remember that it hurt very badly, but can't recall exactly what it felt like with the same clarity with which they recall other types of pain. Something about how that inability to remember the specifics of the pain was useful in an evolutionary sense.

Might be complete bs. I have no idea and, being male, never will. But, if it were true, it would make sense of why so many are willing to go through it again.


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10 May 2012, 9:58 pm

Dillogic wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Are you a trans* man who has given birth before transitioning or are you just gleefully expounding from a place of ignorance?


No, I'm expounding facts.

Envenomation from a box jellyfish is probably the most painful experience one can go through.

Here's a quote from a woman who's been through both:

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"It's like when you're in labor, having a baby, and you've reached the peak of a contraction—that absolute peak—and you feel like you just can't do it anymore. That's the minimum that [Irukandji] pain is at, and it just builds from there."


Thanks for answering my question, ignorance it is.
Anecdotal evidence is not fact. :roll:
You have no personal experience that can address either question the OP asked.
In any case, as lostgirl said pain is relative and is an individual experience.



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10 May 2012, 10:02 pm

I have spoken to women who have given birth and also passed kidney stones; they all said kidney stones were more painful. I have had kidney stones so I can relate


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10 May 2012, 11:09 pm

I will tell you what is more painful, having your dead baby and sac and placenta and all the blood with it sucked out of your uterus after a missed miscarriage.

I have had one birth and the pain wasn't bad. It felt like I was pooping and the contractions felt like menstrual cramps and constipation except they were a lot stronger. I had an epidural because I was told labor and having a baby is worse than the pain I experienced. I wonder if the pain would have been worse if I didn't have an epidural?



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10 May 2012, 11:15 pm

Well childbirth is a necessary and natural biological event. I suppose being dragged by your feet at 50 mph down an asphalt road would be intolerable, but you probably won't have it happen to you. Kidney stones are a physiological reaction dependent at least partly on diet and being stung by a jellyfish can be largely avoided if you want to do so. I have heard inhaling smoke and slowly suffocating in a fire is excruciating if you want to go that direction.

Having a kid is a huge stressor on a woman's body over a long period of time and the process of child birth has historically had a high mortality rate. I wonder why women are so willing to go through the experience. Is it all maternally directed instinct to do something that isn't particularly beneficial to the future mother's well being?



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10 May 2012, 11:22 pm

Spare a thought for the poor Kiwi bird, who lays an egg that is a quarter of it's wight.
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10 May 2012, 11:24 pm

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10 May 2012, 11:32 pm

sluice wrote:
Well childbirth is a necessary and natural biological event. I suppose being dragged by your feet at 50 mph down an asphalt road would be intolerable, but you probably won't have it happen to you. Kidney stones are a physiological reaction dependent at least partly on diet and being stung by a jellyfish can be largely avoided if you want to do so. I have heard inhaling smoke and slowly suffocating in a fire is excruciating if you want to go that direction.


Fair enough. But look at the thread title if you're wondering why people keep bringing up other types of pain.

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Having a kid is a huge stressor on a woman's body over a long period of time and the process of child birth has historically had a high mortality rate. I wonder why women are so willing to go through the experience. Is it all maternally directed instinct to do something that isn't particularly beneficial to the future mother's well being?


well, yeah. Even aside from giving birth there are plenty of examples of the human (hell, most animals too) instinct to put your offspring's wellbeing ahead of your own. Birth is the most common example, being the only truly universal human experience, but there are others.


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