For some reason this bothers me and I know it shouldn't but

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24 Sep 2012, 3:13 pm

When I drove towards town by bus this morning, I saw a couple of giant flags hanging out of some foreign country and they were stuck on a house.

I might be a tiny bit ignorant, but why do people who are so extremely fond of their home-country come and live here?

It's like if you love your home-country so much, why don't you just stay there, instead of letting everyone know every minute, every second of the day, how awesome your country is?

Yeah, this thread might sound racist, but I don't get the point why you go live in another country yet can't stop obsessing and telling people of the awesomeness of your country?

Makes me feel like they don't appreciate the country they're in.

Not that I love my country anyway, but for some reason this sounds biased to me.



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24 Sep 2012, 3:39 pm

Maybe it's because even though they are in the US, they still celebrate their own culture and heritage. We dont require people to abandon their background when they come here. They can also still love their own country.

Some people come here temporarily for work or school. Some people come here to stay because of financial reasons or family reasons etc. Some people come here for more opportunities than their country offers. None of those reasons mean they should stop loving and being proud of their original country. They can fly the flag of whatever country they wish in front of their own home and the only restriction on it is if they fly the American flag on the same pole, it has to be on top.


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24 Sep 2012, 3:45 pm

Yeah, they have the right to do whatever they want, but I dunno, it sort of creeps me out for some reason.

Maybe I'm just exposed to some bad examples what concerns this.



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24 Sep 2012, 3:55 pm

They might have loved their home and culture, and their country's history but be under a new political regime or bad economy that they can no longer survive or tolerate.

Not all immigrants do this. My great-grandfather was from another country, and he never spoke his native language with his children, wanted to be American all the way. But he wasn't forced out of his home by circumstances, he chose to come here.



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24 Sep 2012, 4:21 pm

America is my home country but I have some Welsh ancestors. I also have a Welsh flag.


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24 Sep 2012, 4:27 pm

Perhaps it's a bigotry side of me that I need to get rid of.

Sorry for this thread.



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24 Sep 2012, 4:38 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
Maybe it's because even though they are in the US, they still celebrate their own culture and heritage. We dont require people to abandon their background when they come here. They can also still love their own country.


Well, up to a point, but would you want areas of the U.S. to look like foreign enclaves?

I'm not suggesting for one moment that immigrants automatically have to become Borg-like in their dedication to their new country or that they shouldn't socialise with family and friends, eat food they're used to, watch TV from their own country sometimes, pray and so on (whilst also integrating into the new country and sharing elements of their old culture with the host nation) but you really don't want to go the other way either with separatist ethnic enclaves within your country where only immigrants from certain countries live and where many people in these enclaves despise the host country. We have that in some areas of European cities and it's something you really don't want.



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24 Sep 2012, 5:45 pm

Tequila wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
Maybe it's because even though they are in the US, they still celebrate their own culture and heritage. We dont require people to abandon their background when they come here. They can also still love their own country.


Well, up to a point, but would you want areas of the U.S. to look like foreign enclaves?

I'm not suggesting for one moment that immigrants automatically have to become Borg-like in their dedication to their new country or that they shouldn't socialise with family and friends, eat food they're used to, watch TV from their own country sometimes, pray and so on (whilst also integrating into the new country and sharing elements of their old culture with the host nation) but you really don't want to go the other way either with separatist ethnic enclaves within your country where only immigrants from certain countries live and where many people in these enclaves despise the host country. We have that in some areas of European cities and it's something you really don't want.


Well, we do have little enclaves of a certain ethnic group. China Town, Little Italy are two that come to mind. There are two big China Towns and several Little Italy's.


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24 Sep 2012, 5:58 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
Well, we do have little enclaves of a certain ethnic group. China Town, Little Italy are two that come to mind. There are two big China Towns and several Little Italy's.


Are local non-Chinese/Italians threatened or made to feel unwelcome? Is there a genuine proudness to be American too? If there is, and community relations are otherwise very good I really can't see too much of an issue with that - multiculturalism in an American sense seems to work well, it being a country of immigrants.



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24 Sep 2012, 6:24 pm

Uprising wrote:
Perhaps it's a bigotry side of me that I need to get rid of.

Sorry for this thread.

Your question didn't strike me as bigoted, just curious.