JFK's Body

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I'm not into any conspiracy theory and I really could care less who killed him at this point, but I was just reading some of the stuff surrounding the anniversary of something (not his death, forgot what already). I had no idea that they pronounced him dead at 1pm and took his body to the airport at 2pm. That seems really crazy in a major crime scene. You think they would have kept it and done rigorous tests on it (even considering that forensics were different back then). Think of all the contamination possibilities, even just time being one of them (I would assume they did an autopsy in DC).

You're correct, it was really rushed. One of the most unusual things that happened was when they got the limo to the hospital and he was wheeled inside, the Secret Service Agents grabbed towels and wiped the limo clean ! !! ! They destroyed some of the most important evidence of ANY CRIME IN THE TWENTIETH CENTURY ! !! The autopsy was rushed, and another was done in Washington DC. If you want an education on all this, check Youtube. You'll have to wade through the crackpots, but there are a lot of serious videos dealing with all the weird details.

Sadly the 'forensics' back then were nothing more than superficial observation and most of it was cause of death and ballistic trajectory analysis.

The forensics we have today requires a lot more stuff to be gathered at the scene...back then all they needed was an abundance of photos taken from as many angles as possible and measurements/compass directions on the ground and the body to be taken to the coroner to say 'yup, the bullet killed him' .

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I saw an interesting documentary about this. JFK was supposed to have an autopsy at the hospital he was taken to right after getting shot. The Secret Service insisted on JFK being taken somewhere else for the autopsy.

The theory of the documentary is that there was a Secret Service agent in the car behind JFK. When he heard the shots being fired from Oswald, he stood up with his rifle to return fire, but at that instant the car picked up speed, he was thrown off balance and accidentally fired a round that hit JFK in the head. So the Secret Service did all that as a coverup.

JFK: The Smoking Gun (2013) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2945784/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=269NiovMgrs[/youtube]

JFK's autopsy was performed in the late evening hours of November 22, 1963, at Bethesda Naval Hospital in Maryland. None of the doctors who performed it were forensic pathologists.

At the time, there was no Federal crime involved. His murder would have been prosecuted as a state crime, by the state of Texas. Neither the Secret Service, nor the FBI, had any jurisdiction, and really didn't have the authority to remove the body from Texas. But no one was going to question it. LBJ didn't know what was going on, whether there was a coup, or foreign involvement, and he wanted to get back to DC as soon as possible.

THis is all very interesting.

Heck, there used to be this crazy woman that lived in our building, she killed herself in her apt and the police took about six hours with her body.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Secret Service hit him, it was chaos I'm sure. But then why did they cover that up, an accident like that would be understandable, no? It's not like he was playing around with his gun and accidentally hit him.

What was the deal with Jackie, was she trying to crawl out of the car? Not that I could blame her for that either, just wondering.

The bullet that killed JFK shattered his skull. A piece of it landed on the trunk of the limo, and Jackie was trying to retrieve it when Clint Hill, the Secret Service agent who ran up and jumped on the car as it was starting to move away, pushed her back inside and sprawled over the trunk. Or, at least, that was the explanation.

I see it this way. He's preserved in body and in Heaven in spirit.

Just out of reach of the forensic investigators!

I have no idea why the silly conspiracy stuff is going on.

Seriously, I've replicated the results of Oswald with my own Carcano, and my grouping was three heart shots out of three fired (I've got the t-shirt I used around here somewhere), in under 6 seconds. I could have gone quicker, but I wanted each shot to be a fatal hit (may as well have been 3 head shots considering the size of the group).

50 meters or so, slowly moving away.... I could have made it with a pistol, let alone a rifle.

If you see the whole documentary you get a pretty clear idea there was a lot of negligence with the Secret Service. They all stayed up until around 5:00 AM drinking alcohol that day. The agent with the gun wasn't qualified to have it and I guess was the designated gun carrier because the others were too drunk or hung over. Plus the agent in charge was in total CYA mode and I guess what he did that day about the body the agency had to cover up.

I think Jackie just freaked out....but the claim I read was that she was retrieving a piece of JFK's skull, which is crazy. I think that's to support the he was shot from the front from the grassy knoll theory.

So I think either Oswald killed JFK, or because of him firing the first two shots, he caused the agent to fire his gun accidentally. So Oswald is 100% responsible for the death of JFK either way.

I don't think it was really necessary, he got his brains blown out. It was pretty self explanatory just watching the video of the assassination, I don't even understand how he didn't die instantly. There are autopsy pictures too, I don't know if they're real tho.

THey packed a lot of information in there for such a short video. I didn't know they had such fancy guns back then, all I ever saw was rifles. Ezra this must seem like ancient history to you. I was two so I'm not one of those people who remembers where they were when he died. (probably in my crib, haha)

I guess it's possible that Jackie was in shock and thought she could put the piece back on his head. But I agree with you, I think she just freaked and tried to get out. In an open car with bullets being fired. I would have too!