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paolo
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20 Mar 2007, 2:48 pm

We are all born equal. But is it really true? Our bodies are more or less equal: according to some scientists there are 100 trillion cells in an human body, and they divide in 200 different types. They constitute the different organs: brain, liver, muscles, eyes etc. Organs are all the same for all humans (and nearly all mammals). But brains? Brain is the most complicate organ and perhaps its complexity, for the number of cells (neurons) and their organization through synapses, surpasses any other thing in the universe. No human machinery is comparable to the brain . Here lies differentiation: brains are made of modules (programs for actions or chains of actions) and stored memories of different kinds. Modules and memories are different for every one in a way that livers and hearts are not. Each NT is e only apparently the same of an other NT, and no autie resembles another autie. This fact poses a question: is the difference between an autie and an NT greater than the differences existing among members of each of the two groups? What is equal, and it is an amazing fact, is the DNA of each cell of a single individual. This may be a muddled reflection, but, for me, is at the basis of every possible reflection about life.



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20 Mar 2007, 2:52 pm

Evolution only cares about baby production so those that have more than average production of babies are more equal :) Every other measure of a person means nothing.



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20 Mar 2007, 3:26 pm

equally what? human? Define Human?



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20 Mar 2007, 3:29 pm

Exerpt from the Declaration of Independance:

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.



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20 Mar 2007, 3:52 pm

Equal is way to abstract a concept and I think it has been miss understood from its original context.I dont think the founding fathers meant that all people were "just as good as the next guy" but that we should treat them as if they were, in reguards to offering them the rights mentioned.Of course it doesnt help that they left out native american,african americans and womens in the end result....oh well.I think they were looking at a goal to shoot for.....all humans should have those rights.Maybe humans will evolve to a point of actually honoring this ideal someday(but I doubt it).


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20 Mar 2007, 3:59 pm

krex wrote:
Equal is way to abstract a concept and I think it has been miss understood from its original context.I dont think the founding fathers meant that all people were "just as good as the next guy" but that we should treat them as if they were, in reguards to offering them the rights mentioned.Of course it doesnt help that they left out native american,african americans and womens in the end result....oh well.I think they were looking at a goal to shoot for.....all humans should have those rights.Maybe humans will evolve to a point of actually honoring this ideal someday(but I doubt it).


Yes, it means people should be treated as equals, socially and by the law. Of course, we know this has not been the case throughout our history.

Obviously people are NOT equal in the "as good as the next guy" context. I'm never going to make it to the NBA or build a supercomputer.



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20 Mar 2007, 4:57 pm

What I mean is that when I walk in the streets I see many human beings, female or male, who approximately are all alike, have noses, eyes, arms, legs (the only big difference is that of gender). Compared to this looking alike, the difference of their minds is enormous. We will never know people really, because we will never know their minds, an even shrinks after years of sessions don’t know a damn thing about their patient patients. This is something that about impresses me much now. People are sometimes reliable in their behavior (they don’t kill, or steal, or commit suicide) for very different reasons: They feel revulsion, or fear, or obey their parents’ prescriptions and so on but that doesn’t mean that they are the same.

Humans are defined technically by the fact that they can reproduce among themselves. The unity and particularity of the species is given by this and nothing else. They can mate and have offsprings.



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20 Mar 2007, 5:45 pm

some are more equal than others


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20 Mar 2007, 6:03 pm

Yes, snowball.



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20 Mar 2007, 6:20 pm

No one is equal to a Red Mage.



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20 Mar 2007, 6:54 pm

krex wrote:
Equal is way to abstract a concept and I think it has been miss understood from its original context.I dont think the founding fathers meant that all people were "just as good as the next guy" but that we should treat them as if they were, in reguards to offering them the rights mentioned.Of course it doesnt help that they left out native american,african americans and womens in the end result....oh well.I think they were looking at a goal to shoot for.....all humans should have those rights.Maybe humans will evolve to a point of actually honoring this ideal someday(but I doubt it).


Nothing will ever be equal. In fact the founding fathers wrote the Contitution they mostly just meant white, christan males.


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20 Mar 2007, 6:58 pm

Yes,we are all equal.


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20 Mar 2007, 7:10 pm

As the pigs in Animal Farm wrote, everybody is equal. But some are more equal than others.


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20 Mar 2007, 7:12 pm

What do you all mean by equal?



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20 Mar 2007, 7:14 pm

We are what we make ourselves out to be I suppose and some make themselves out to be better, others not so good.



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20 Mar 2007, 7:16 pm

RedMage wrote:
What do you all mean by equal?

:lol: (sometimes it goes thru to the keeper)


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