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Mrrandomman
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05 Jan 2015, 2:02 pm

Does anyone on WP believe in spirits or demons? I've always been told I was crazy or something but I'm pretty sure they are real. If you believe, post any experiences with these strange paranormal things.



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05 Jan 2015, 2:07 pm

I have had some pretty spooky experience..but they do say there is a portion of the brain we don't use. So who knows. I'm open minded about it. There isn't enough evidence to prove either way.



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05 Jan 2015, 5:48 pm

Well, I was always unsure when people said they had seen a ghost----'til I SAW one!! I almost broke my arm (it fell-down between the stairs' railing and the wall), when I stopped-in-my-tracks, cuz it frightened me!! I saw my grandmother standing at the ironing board, ironing. (I can't remember how long she'd been dead----and, we weren't close; so, it wasn't like I was missing her, like some people think was the reason I "thought" I saw her.)

Also, my aunt had told me several times about when she AND her father saw the same ghost!! They were riding on a horse together (the regular mode of transportation, back then), and out, ahead of them, was a woman with long blonde hair, and a white nightgown. When they got up to where she was, she was gone.



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05 Jan 2015, 6:26 pm

I'm a little bit spiritual, there's a kind of energy to the world, but I don't believe in the dead haunting us. A couple years ago I was feeling really low in bed and was wishing I could just die. In my mind I begged whatever higher power there is to take me, to end it, I was finished. Something weird happened, a kind darkness started to encompass my vision and I felt as if I was beings enveloped by an empty void or something else. I was suddenly terrified and no longer accepting and it went away. I dunno if it was my mind just playing tricks on me, I like to think of myself as a scientific thinker. It still disturbs me though to think about it.



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05 Jan 2015, 7:47 pm

Mrrandomman wrote:
Does anyone on WP believe in spirits or demons? I've always been told I was crazy or something but I'm pretty sure they are real. If you believe, post any experiences with these strange paranormal things.
There is no reason to believe in something for which there is no valid empirical evidence.

And no, belief is not evidence, nor are feelings, assumptions, emotions, and largely apocryphal accounts that can not be traced back to their primary source.

Therefore, I believe that there are no ghosts, haunts, or other examples of disembodied spiritual beings.



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05 Jan 2015, 7:57 pm

Meekaraccoon wrote:
I have had some pretty spooky experience..but they do say there is a portion of the brain we don't use.
This myth has been thoroughly debunked. We use 100% of the living portions of our brains. Magnetic Resonance Imaging and PET scans have proven this.

Snopes.com has an article titled "The Ten-Percent Myth". I suggest that you check it out.



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05 Jan 2015, 8:05 pm

Fnord wrote:
Meekaraccoon wrote:
I have had some pretty spooky experience..but they do say there is a portion of the brain we don't use.
This myth has been thoroughly debunked. We use 100% of the living portions of our brains. Magnetic Resonance Imaging and PET scans have proven this.

Snopes.com has an article titled "The Ten-Percent Myth". I suggest that you check it out.


It's depressing that so many cultural myths still exist, I remember when I saw the trailer for the movie called Lucy a while back and I died a little on the inside.



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05 Jan 2015, 8:09 pm

Feyokien wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Meekaraccoon wrote:
I have had some pretty spooky experience..but they do say there is a portion of the brain we don't use.
This myth has been thoroughly debunked. We use 100% of the living portions of our brains. Magnetic Resonance Imaging and PET scans have proven this. Snopes.com has an article titled "The Ten-Percent Myth". I suggest that you check it out.
It's depressing that so many cultural myths still exist, I remember when I saw the trailer for the movie called Lucy a while back and I died a little on the inside.
It's even more depressing to know that as more effort is put into abolishing ignorance, there is an increased effort among ignorant people to "push back" and hold on to their precious myths.



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05 Jan 2015, 8:14 pm

If madness was considered an important ingredient in discussions on this forum, why bother logging in?

I could simply stroll down to a local street corner of my city and listen to the homeless people rambling about Vietnam, extraterrestrials, Satan, etc.



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05 Jan 2015, 9:49 pm

my sister and the hospice nurses saw the spirit of my late father leave his body as a filmy off-white mist, which hung beneath the ceiling for a few seconds then drifted away. I have repeatedly experienced poltergeist activity in multiple locations. both me and my late mother "heard" my dad call us by each of our names simultaneously, a day after his death, rousing us both out of our sleep.



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05 Jan 2015, 11:33 pm

Nope. I thinks such beliefs should have been left in the Dark Ages where they belong, and I absolutely hate when people use them to trick people who are weak-minded, gullible or just plain want an explanation to the inexplicable so they can steal their money or ruin their lives, like fortune-tellers who hold a seance by first getting as much info as possible about the deceased person from the mourner and then use that info to make up a fake spirit played by an actor or or even a puppet made out of dead human body! (I saw that once in a PC game of Sherlock Holmes vs. Jack the Ripper) :) Or modern exorcists who tell parents their AUTISTIC children are really possessed, or people who claim their houses are really haunted but they're not but they charge people to come in and see for themselves.

Actually, my older brother went to a "haunted" house a few months ago. He's the last person besides who me would actually believe in the paranormal. Maybe it was just for a laugh or the history behind the house itself?



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06 Jan 2015, 3:06 am

Rationally, I reject the supernatural, but really I would like to embrace it. I find the concept charming. In my opinion, the world would be a poor and boring place if we could think merely in terms of things tangible. For example, many mathematical structures do not have a corporeal manifestation, and yet to me they are still very much present and alive.

On another note, I find the concept of spirits comforting. It allows us to stay in touch with those loved ones that are no longer here. Demons are another story entirely, of course. As far as I'm concerned, they can just go to (or rather, stay in) hell.



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06 Jan 2015, 6:52 am

I don't know. I have never seen any evidence or had any paranormal experience, but something tells me to never rule anything out.

But I think attempts to 'eliminate' supernatural beliefs futile and a little foolish. You might as well try to outlaw egos.



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06 Jan 2015, 8:35 am

They don't exist as they're defined in religious texts (which is pretty much how they're defined in most works of fiction, or close enough anyway).



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06 Jan 2015, 8:41 am

Fnord wrote:
There is no reason to believe in something for which there is no valid empirical evidence.

And no, belief is not evidence, nor are feelings, assumptions, emotions, and largely apocryphal accounts that can not be traced back to their primary source.

Therefore, I believe that there are no ghosts, haunts, or other examples of disembodied spiritual beings.


Fnord, I think I actually love you a little bit 8)


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06 Jan 2015, 9:01 am

"In the end (and despite mountains of ambiguous photos, sounds and videos), the evidence for ghosts is no better today than it was a year ago, a decade ago or a century ago. There are two possible reasons for the failure of ghost hunters to find good evidence. The first is that ghosts don't exist, and that reports of ghosts can be explained by psychology, misperceptions, mistakes and hoaxes. The second option is that ghosts do exist, but that ghost hunters are simply incompetent."

- Ben Radford


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