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30 Aug 2017, 10:55 am

Why do people say they take their dogs out to use the bathroom? They're excreting in the yard, not the bathroom.



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30 Aug 2017, 12:01 pm

because people associate handling their excretory business as "using the bathroom/restroom," so that extends to whenever anything handles their excretory business regardless of what they use.

though frankly i must ask... why does that even matter?? it just seems too nitpicky to be concerned about things like that...


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30 Aug 2017, 12:29 pm

SentientPotato wrote:
... why does that even matter?? it just seems too nitpicky to be concerned about things like that...

Some of us are literal minded and it only make sense that people should say what they mean and mean what they say rather than assuming (if they ever even think about it at all that) we can automatically interpret illogical utterances.


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30 Aug 2017, 12:40 pm

It's a euphemism, which means, more or less, happy word(s). People have always used these expressions... like:
He has passed away - he's dead
We'll have to let you go - you're fired
I'm not ready for commitment right now - you're dumped

People tend to use it as a way of softening the brutal truth, or (as in your example) trying to be be more polite... so you don't have to say "I'm taking the dog out for a crap, vicar".

I agree that it can be a bit weird for those of us who tend to take things literally (which will be most of us here).


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30 Aug 2017, 1:29 pm

leejosepho wrote:
SentientPotato wrote:
... why does that even matter?? it just seems too nitpicky to be concerned about things like that...

Some of us are literal minded and it only make sense that people should say what they mean and mean what they say rather than assuming (if they ever even think about it at all that) we can automatically interpret illogical utterances.
oh no, i get there's the whole literal-minded thing to account for, but... this isn't a case of not knowing what a person means by that, as clearly he has expressed that he knows what the person means when when they say that. what he doesn't know is why they say it that way. that's where i feel things are getting nitpicky.

nevermind, i'm just not thinking straight. my apologies.


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30 Aug 2017, 11:54 pm

I once read a book by the American psychiatrist Scott Peck, in which he speculated that when he became old, and perhaps mentally and physically impaired, he might "go to the bathroom in my pajamas". I hadn't a clue what he meant by this: after all why wouldn't one make a trip to the bathroom, or any other room in the house, in one's pajamas or any other mode of dress? It was only after reading it for about the tenth time that I realized what he was saying.

I think it's a bit weird that Americans seem to use crude expressions like 'a**hole' or 'sh*t' (for 'possessions' etc) so casually, yet tiptoe around referring to other matters by recourse to expressions like this. Then again, we Brits have phrases like 'Spend a penny'....

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31 Aug 2017, 12:00 am

nah, if anyone refers to possessions that crudely, they wouldn't hesitate to do the same of bodily functions. It's really the ones that refrain from vulgar terms that would use those kinds of expressions, at least in my experience.


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31 Aug 2017, 8:32 am

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He has passed away - he's dead
We'll have to let you go - you're fired
I'm not ready for commitment right now - you're dumped

Ugggh yuck, beat-around-the-proverbial-bush talk. Why bother? Why not just say it? Is it to minimize offence, when (if the person is neurotypical at least) they know exactly what you mean anyway? Doesn't that cancel out the point of using it?
To the OP - I would never say I'm taking a dog out to use the bathroom. Because it's untrue. You're taking the dog out for a piss in the yard. Simple. What's wrong with saying that?
It's like the sort of pussyfooting people do around social engagements. If they don't want to go somewhere, they make up some excuse (read - lie), when it's obvious that's what it is. Why not just say no, you don't want to go?
I recently had someone ask if I wanted to see a video of a baby relative doing something they perceived to be cute.
I replied with "no." Because I didn't want to see it.
I'm done pussyfooting.


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31 Aug 2017, 9:17 am

DeepHour wrote:
I think it's a bit weird that Americans seem to use crude expressions like 'a**hole' or 'sh*t' (for 'possessions' etc) so casually, yet tiptoe around referring to other matters...

I remember when one of my daughters had a book entitled "Everybody Poops" for reading material in her bathroom and I was a little uncomfortable with that since pooping had always seemed to me to be some kind of secret activity!


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31 Aug 2017, 9:26 am

Related content: "26 April 2017 Most mammals big or small take about 12 seconds to defecate"
https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... -defecate/

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Everyone poops, and it takes them about the same amount of time. A new study of the hydrodynamics of defecation finds that all mammals with faeces like ours take 12 seconds on average to relieve themselves, no matter how large or small the animal.

The research, published in Soft Matter, reveals that the soft matter coming out of the hind ends of elephants, pandas, warthogs and dogs slides out of the rectum on a layer of mucus that keeps toilet time to a minimum.

“The smell of body waste attracts predators, which is dangerous for animals. If they stay longer doing their thing, they’re exposing themselves and risking being discovered,” says Patricia Yang, a mechanical engineer at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta.

Yang and colleagues filmed elephants, pandas and warthogs at a local zoo, and one team member’s dog in a park, as they defecated. All these animals produce cylindrical faeces, like we do, and this is the most common kind among mammals. Though the animals’ body masses ranged from 4 to 4,000 kilograms, the duration of defecation remained constant.
Hmm, "duration of defecation" ... try to say that three times fast.

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Using a rheometer – a device that measures the way fluids flow under applied force – Yang found that faeces are shear-thinning, which means they have lower resistance the faster they’re deformed. That’s why dog poop feels slippery when you step on it.

Based on animals at the Atlanta Zoo, they found that on average, animals take in about 8 per cent of their body mass in food, and expel 1 per cent of body mass in faeces.

Their observations fed into a mathematical model that can predict defecation times for various problems within the digestive system. “If it’s taking far longer than 12 seconds, I’d say you should go see someone about it,” she says. “But you can’t count the newspaper time.”


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