Are we still living by Victorian standards?
I submit that "tits" is the more accurate than "breasts". Tit has always been used to refer a mammary gland since the middle ages. Breast, however, was more commonly used to refer to the ribcage area of the human torso. “I laid my head upon her breast” meant “upon her chest”, not necessarily touching her breasts, which used to be called her bosom. (Bosom also comes from German and originally meant a cleft.) At some point, perhaps in the Victorian period, when it became impolite to use actual words for body parts (one said “limbs” instead of “arms” or “legs”), the use of “chest” came into common usage to mean breast. Chest comes from the German word “Kiste”, which means a chest to keep things in. Therefore, Breasts are a misnomer left over from the Victorian era.
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I totally agree. Here in the state of New York, police will arrest a woman even though it is NOT illegal for a woman to go topless. The law was changed in 1992. My post is to bring to light the fact that people are wrong by pretending that "tits" is a vulgar or slang word when it is actually the correct terminology. Some people even pretend that "breasts" is somehow the correct term akin to a penis being the correct term for a dick. This is not true as I pointed out.
http://naturisteducation.org/Toni_Egbert_Library/State_Supreme_Courts/NY_v_Santorelli/ny_v_santorelli.html
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I've been having this bad feeling lately that eventually we will not be able to say we love anyone or anything in public without people automatically thinking it's Freudian and sexual. We won't even be able to say we like anyone or anything. If a mother tells her daughter she loves her, people will call her a lesbian who commits incest. If you say you love animals, they'll call you a furry zoophile. They already think that if you draw cartoon animals or even read Aesop Fables that have talking animals in them, and it's put me in a really bad mood for the past couple of decades.
And if you even say you love a certain food, they'll think you have a fetish for it. They won't just make the snarky but harmless remark "Well then why don'cha marry it?" They'll assume you roll around naked in it or something when you go home.
We won't be allowed to express even the slightest fondness or show positive emotions about anything without being judged, hated, labeled and bullied. It will be worse than the Victorian Age, which wasn't quite as prudish as people think. Soon we won't be even allowed to wear bathing suits to the beach or pool or wear shorts and T-shirts in summer even when it's roasting hot out, especially children and women. It's so ironic, that instead of just giving us the message to be discreet and dress appropriately society has brainwashed us into believing our body parts are disgusting and horrible and we should be ashamed to even have them. Whatever I'm going to draw nipples on shirtless human males and breasts on adult human females because we're mammals and the word actually means "mammary" and if people think it's disgusting and sexual then I guess we'll just have to force real men to have their nipples surgically removed and real women's breasts cut off!!
I have not heard this in a long time! Good memories, though, because I still like to use the related phrase "Why don't you take a picture, it'll last longer!"
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It is my opinion that nudity and passionate declarations of love belong in private. If we're becoming more prudish as a whole, then that is very okay to me. I (sadly) see no sign of it though.
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I am sorry if my post offended anyone, I guess I should have posted this in the Adult section. I just figured it was OK since it was not in the General section. Hey, I like turtles too! I remember having a turtle because of the Ninja Turtles, even before the first movie came out. This was when we were living in Hawaii in the 80's. Polynesian Cultural Center was really awesome. I remember the Polynesian warriors used to wear a cool gourd mask/helmet. Also, have you ever heard of Elfquest? It made me like wolves better than turtles. I was reading Elfquest around that time as well, and treaders of ElfQuest know that a message of living in harmony with the natural world and its creatures has been woven into the story from the very beginning. The wolfs are central to the story and there was always pictures of the authors on wolf and other wildlife preserves. It is a mature story though, with lots of fantasy violence and nudity. Check it out here (NSFW)http://elfquest.com/tag/national-wildlife-federation/
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The Victorians exercised bodily privacy in public places. Couldn't be more different from an age that fetishes extreme exhibitionists such as the Kardashians. The question seems ridiculous to me, of course we are not in an age of Victorian Standards. Women can own property, fight in the military, have legal protections against domestic violence, can work, cast a vote, gain custody of their children after divorce in some cases, get a university education, get a bank loan in their own name, and wear what they want, rather than conform to strict dress codes. Women have agency and choices. Victorian women were trapped in a patriarchal system of dominance that denied women agency and equity in all the ways that matter - with the exception of course of Queen Victoria, who became Queen to the outrage of her male relatives who tried to undermine and usurp her (of course) as unfit to be sovereign. That sort of backfired on them... as history would show.
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