Male Violence

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I abhor violence and most of the physical violence in this world is perpetrated by males...against males. Fathers, brothers, sons, male friends, often lose their lives to other men over things that are often trivial and did not have to result in the loss of life.

Both my friend and my brother have lost friends at the hands of other males. My friend's friend was murdered by his girlfriend's ex boyfriend. She was also murdered. The ex boyfriend stormed her house while they were sleeping and shot both of them to death. My brother's friend was stabbed to death at a party after some uninivited guys, who know one knew, were told to leave. They left and then returned and attempted to pick a fight with a guy there (maybe the one who told them to leave?). My brother's friend stepped in and told them to leave again and one of them pulled a knife and stabbed him to death. He was 18.

These people did not need to lose their lives but they did because of males who had no regard for it, who could not control their emotions, felt entitled to take it and most chillingly, felt justified in doing so.

I recently read an article by a man on the subject of male violence in which he noted from his own experience with being the perpetrator of violence, and his own observations that men who commit acts of violence almost always feel justified in doing so.

This was underscored recently when UFC champion Conor McGregor attack a bus with a fellow fighter on it who he felt had slighted a training partner. McGregor and his enterouge of 20 people crashed the venue and chased after the bus filled with other fighters andctheir support staff, and picked up a metal dolly and threw it through the bus window, injuring two of it's occupants (neither being the man he was upset with) and causing facial lacerations to one of them....and he isn't sorry.

According to an article in the Washington Post
"“Conor and I talked through text yesterday, obviously the worst conversation we have ever had, ” White said during a Friday morning appearance on Fox Sports 1’s “First Things First,” adding that the conversation took place before McGregor turned himself in. “It’s not that I don’t think he understood what happened, it’s just … he justified it, it was justified to him. … (He thought) it had to be done.”"

No, it did not have to be done. An innocent bus company did not have to have their property damaged. Two innocent people did not have to be injured. The man McGregor was upset with was a fellow fighter. He could have legally arranged a fight with him if he felt a score needed to be settled with physical violence.

While most physical violence is perpetuated by males, most males are not perpetrators of violence. I think this issue needs more attention and more needs to be done to determine what seperates males who commit senseless acts of violence from males who don't. Why do most males walk away from situations but others feel inclined to bring the situation to a violent conclusion?

If this issue could be solved, life would be a lot nicer and safer for the rest of us.

I got into a lot of physical fights in elementary school and I was very capable of fighting like a male. The reason I did it was because of all the spankings that my parents gave me. I learned that if someone pissed me off, I was supposed to hurt them, because of those spankings. I fought like a boy, none of that cat fight hair pulling and scratching that girls and women do. Thankfully, I haven't done that in 30 years.

my diagnostician said that my demeanour makes me appear more assertive and aggressive and that my intentions are misconstrued by others putting me at risk of violence and police interest

While I respect that you are male gendered, I think the etiology of your violent behavior might be a little different than the etiology that makes the majority of violent cis pubescent and post pubescent males violent.

I believe males on the spectrum may be particularly prone to violence...or at least threats of violence, from other males.

However when encountering such threats from other males, I believe males on the spectrum may also be more likely to attempt to leave or diffuse the situation.

Oh definitely , I don't feel like I'm losing face if I walk away from an altercation ( which I believe is some part of the problem with male to male violence ) , I can handle all the 'chicken' , 'coward' etc abuse and I was able to joke my way out of some trouble but sometimes it's either take a beating and leave it at that or defend yourself ( and once you defended yourself once it can start a never ending escalation of revenge unless you leave town )

Immediate self defense of yourself or another person against physical harm when escape not reasonably possible is one of the few valid uses of physical violence.

agreed

Mental problems? It could also be that some men answer to any kind of disagreements or trouble with violence simply because that's the way that stuck to them in childhood (violent parents, teachers etc.) These men might even know in theory that it is wrong, but when they end up in a bad situation the mannerisms they learned as children come to surface.

That type of male violence. I don't care for that brand of violence. I especially don't understand the wife beater. What does he get out of inflicting such pain onto his partner? And guys who beat each other up, trying to kill each other when they're old enough not to be doing that. There are also young men and some young women who carry guns and shoot at each other. Not to mention all the shootings and terrorist attacks that are going on around the world.

If it were upbringing alone, we would expect the rate of violent men to be the same as violwnt women. If it were upbringing with social gender constructs that hold males should be more violent or that it's ok for them to be, we would expect men to commit physical violence at double the rate of women. But men commit physical violence at rates very significantly more than twice that of women.

It's testosterone, which differentiates men from women, plus some other variable which differentiates normal men who might occassionally be a little rowdy from men who resort to serious acts of violence.

I'm curious of there are certain genes involved and the behaviors these genes result in in the absence of testosterone. Some violent men were also violent children, but not all.

A friend of my brother's got into a serious fight as a young adult that he was not an innocent party in but he did he came from a loving home with parents who did not push toxic forms of masculinity and he did not physically act out as a child. He would, however, occasionally make a dark, sarcastic comment.

I think I was born with the dark sarcastic comment gene , maybe I'm a ticking time bomb waiting for the right catalyst.

^^^yep, testosterone.

I think Chronos is right , testosterone is not directly culpable but might play a significant role. Testosterone definitely seems to make people want to dominate but not always with violence - there's always an exception to the rule.

I think CockneyRebel is correct in stating the cause. It is how you are raised as a child to handle conflict. The choice whether berserker rage is appropriate can be trained.