Something I dislike about autism sites

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02 Jun 2019, 4:51 am

I hate it when there's a typical Aspie trait commonly discussed on the forum, then suddenly one day a thread springs up saying that the opposite is an Aspie thing and everyone agrees.

For example it's often discussed that a lot of people with ASD can remember being a baby, and it is a common thing among humans to not remember being a baby. Then suddenly a thread springs up one day saying something like "I don't remember being a baby, is this an Aspie thing?" and the replies agree that it is an Aspie thing - even though most humans typically can't remember their babyhood.

It's really annoying. It makes it sound like NTs are all perfect, so perfect that they don't exist, or something. Do you get what I mean?


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02 Jun 2019, 5:57 am

I remember from quite an early age. Certainly from a few months old onwards. It maybe an aspie thing as the spectrum is quite a large one.



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02 Jun 2019, 6:07 am

I still have memories from as young as three or four...

But you know what REALLY annoys me about Aspie sites? When Aspies start talking about wanting to build an Autism Society with no NTs, or when they claim that all NTs are bad people.

That's Nazi talk. :|


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02 Jun 2019, 6:29 am

I think it's Aspie thing to overthink everything :D

It may be annoying sometimes but I don't think of it as a big deal.

A lot of us go through stages of trying to figure out answers for their "what's wrong with me" feelings, I think these threads stem from searching for any patterns that would explain anything one feels.


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02 Jun 2019, 6:32 am

magz wrote:
I think it's Aspie thing to overthink everything :D

It may be annoying sometimes but I don't think of it as a big deal.

A lot of us go through stages of trying to figure out answers for their "what's wrong with me" feelings, I think these threads stem from searching for any patterns that would explain anything one feels.


Everyone tells me I overthink things too lol. I think that's definetly an Aspie trait. :chin:


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02 Jun 2019, 7:19 am

Might be why our brains tend to get a bit overheated. I'd quite like a stand-by mode.


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02 Jun 2019, 7:44 am

Joe90 wrote:
I hate it when there's a typical Aspie trait commonly discussed on the forum, then suddenly one day a thread springs up saying that the opposite is an Aspie thing and everyone agrees.

For example it's often discussed that a lot of people with ASD can remember being a baby, and it is a common thing among humans to not remember being a baby. Then suddenly a thread springs up one day saying something like "I don't remember being a baby, is this an Aspie thing?" and the replies agree that it is an Aspie thing - even though most humans typically can't remember their babyhood.

It's really annoying. It makes it sound like NTs are all perfect, so perfect that they don't exist, or something. Do you get what I mean?


Never noticed that exact thing about topics. But I have only really been on two autism/aspie sites. This, and earlier on the "aspie hangout" on Delphi forums (that once active site is now a ghosttown).

Here folks will say "I like cottage cheese. Is that an aspie thing?", and half of the folks will respond to that same thread by saying "I like cottage cheese too, so it might be", and the other half will respond by saying "I hate cottage cheese, and most of my NT friends and family love cottage cheese so you're full of it if you're saying that its an 'aspie thing'". I haven't noticed thread saying were everyone concludes that "autistics love chicken mcnuggets more than NTs", and then other threads where everyone agrees that "hating chicken mcnuggets is an autistic thing".

There was at least one thread here on WP about that phenom of remembering every day of your life since early infancy. Like most folks I only remember to about 3. About I was astounded how many autistic folks on WP memories not only go back into infancy but they remember every day in their lives in childhood.



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02 Jun 2019, 8:15 am

1) Quite a few posts have no interaction with anyone else. "I've whatever" with little mention of other posts.
2) So many members and topics it's hard to get into a specific thread, or find it after a day.



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02 Jun 2019, 8:20 am

I just get confused, because they say that Aspies are black and white thinkers, but then some threads pop up that discusses a topic that makes it sound as if NTs are black and white or logical thinkers. So it contradicts, and contradictions sometimes confuse me to the point where I need to express my confusion and get answers. I just like closure. :)

Sometimes when I see one of these threads I'm like, "but it was an NT thing the other day." There was a thread here once saying that Aspies are more closed-minded and judgemental. Then I saw in another thread ages ago that Aspies are more capable of noticing things on people like body weight or whether someone is wearing makeup or not. I mean, in my 29 years experience on this Earth, I have definitely learnt that noticing things on people is strictly an NT thing, and also NTs can be judgemental, probably more judgemental than Aspies, because most judge people who are different, and expect everybody to be the same.

And one time I even read that it's an Aspie thing to read body language.


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02 Jun 2019, 9:09 am

When a person fails to distinguish between what's normal and what's human... :lol: Then I got little respect for that person.

If a person fails to know what's normal to a human, from what's usual from certain circumstances or a certain way of 'being'. Then they got a lot of ways to go.



If I were so forgiving; it'll be the latter. I'd say it's just people either not wanting to feel alone because of said trait or experience.
They're just curious if what they got or what had happened to them is actually a common thing with autistics. Or worried, trying to ask what it meant.
And to some, stumbling upon with such questions and answers, they might learned a thing or two about, well, 'being'.

At worst, seeking confirmation biases, categorization, or some bad form of attention and validation...



As for myself? :lol: I'm a living proof of certain traits that 'shouldn't' be, and still be autistic. So I've learnt it rather quickly that things aren't absolute, only common or prone to. In some respects, I'm a bit less fulfilled myself in this department. What are the odds of finding another autistic in my age group that doesn't have any psychiatric comorbid??
The fact that most aspies have comorbids is more or less a revelation to me -- and so does people in general with their own individual issues 'paralleling' it. This is my 'closure'.


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02 Jun 2019, 9:32 am

Joe90,

Those types of threads give me a headache. I am prone to filling my mind with a lot of information people might term useless.



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02 Jun 2019, 9:45 am

Those threads also drive me up the wall. If you've met one autistic person, you've met one autistic person. People are all different whether they're autistic or not.


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02 Jun 2019, 9:58 am

There is no one typical aspie/asd person and there is no one typical NT. Everyone is different. All those "Is this an ___ thing?" questions are only true or untrue (or partially true or untrue) for the persons involved.

Humans can only speak about their own experiences, and I really wish everyone NT or not would remember that.



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02 Jun 2019, 11:05 am

Joe90 wrote:
I just get confused, because they say that Aspies are black and white thinkers, but then some threads pop up that discusses a topic that makes it sound as if NTs are black and white or logical thinkers. So it contradicts, and contradictions sometimes confuse me to the point where I need to express my confusion and get answers. I just like closure. :)

Sometimes when I see one of these threads I'm like, "but it was an NT thing the other day." There was a thread here once saying that Aspies are more closed-minded and judgemental. Then I saw in another thread ages ago that Aspies are more capable of noticing things on people like body weight or whether someone is wearing makeup or not. I mean, in my 29 years experience on this Earth, I have definitely learnt that noticing things on people is strictly an NT thing, and also NTs can be judgemental, probably more judgemental than Aspies, because most judge people who are different, and expect everybody to be the same.

And one time I even read that it's an Aspie thing to read body language.


I get what you're saying. I don't take every observation everyone makes as dead seriously as you do. You don't have to take dialogue on sites like this as gospel. You are yourself are an expert on autism. You can give observations as well as receive them.

I myself am not all of that black and white in my thinking. So I don't related to that "black and white thinking" thing.

Aspies can be very judgmental (look at some of the posts here) in ways that would embarrass the most stodgy narrrowminded NTs. But aspies, being the victims of others casting judgement upon them, can also be forced by life to be very non judgmental.

There are situations in life in which I have been appalled by how lacking in empathy NTs can be ( and I don't mean empthy towards ME, I mean empathy towards common third parties we all deal with on the job). I had running argument with a coworker about an issue in which the coworker willfully refused to use very obvious commonsense about getting into the heads of others ( theory of mind- ya know- what I as an aspie am not supposed to have, but NTs supposedly do have) to deal with a certain issue. Long story.

I guess that I am just saying what DanielW above is saying.



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02 Jun 2019, 12:55 pm

I hate that too many people define Aspergers/Autism by something as simple as traits! If diagnoses was defined mostly by traits I would have so many different disorders it would be ridiculous.

"Is this an aspie trait?" just sounds so stupid to me. Liking certain things doesn't mean you have Aspergers! Its annoying that liking technology is something associated with Asperger's even though that is just a trait and has nothing to do with disorders. Autism sites are bad for this and all the "is this an aspie thing?" and it grinds the mess out of my gears.


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02 Jun 2019, 12:59 pm

AquaineBay wrote:
I hate that too many people define Aspergers/Autism by something as simple as traits! If diagnoses was defined mostly by traits I would have so many different disorders it would be ridiculous.

"Is this an aspie trait?" just sounds so stupid to me. Liking certain things doesn't mean you have Aspergers! Its annoying that liking technology is something associated with Asperger's even though that is just a trait and has nothing to do with disorders. Autism sites are bad for this and all the "is this an aspie thing?" and it grinds the mess out of my gears.



I know, I feel the same way....Drives me nuts sometimes. It must be an aspie thing [sorry, couldn't resist]