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05 Sep 2019, 10:36 am

i really need to infodump about my current special interest, maybe i can do it here? if it's wrong, i'm sorry! if you for some reason want to hear about it, welcome!

two days ago i very suddenly remembered that there was something called the vril society, which was (or wasn't, it apparently never existed!) an occult group of women, based on a sci-fi novel called the coming race, in austria/germany in the 1900s. i remember vividly reading about it on wikipedia, about how the members grew their hair long, because they believed hair functioned as an antenna, and they could receive telepathic messages from the taurus constellation with their incredibly long hair. i read that in 2012-2016, can't remember.
anyway, the vril society doesn't have a wikipedia page anymore? i can't find the info about the hair anymore, on wikipedia, which i find so weird. i remember it! so, i started scrounging the web for info about this mystery group, and the founder of it is said to be a maria orsic, who also didn't exist? only shady conspiracy sites have any info of the vril society, all wikipedia says is that it was never real.
so now for a couple days i've been researching the occult scene of austria & germany from that period, and idk, i'm obsessed. apparently some of the powerful nazi figures believed that the earth is hollow?? and that germans are descendants of an alien race which lives inside earth! crazy!
and the vril society, orsic is claimed to have channelled an alien spirit, which made her write in ancient sumerian the blueprint for a flying machine! she was also said to be incredibly beautiful, and some members of the vril society joined the deutsche arbeiter partie, which became the nazi party, unfortunately. so apparently the vril people weren't only crazy, but also kinda evil? that is, if the group ever existed. the only source which mentions it is an infamously unreliable book, called the morning of the magicians, iirc. some people on shady websites talk of the society, as if it was very real, though, and even said that orsic had a granddaughter who lived in long island.
okay whew. this stuff is mysterious, i tried the wayback machine, trying to find an old copy of the vril wikipedia page, which could've said something about the vril society, but nothing. i swear i won't rest until i figure this out! i'm sure sure sure i read about it on wikipedia... and anyway i find the occult and religions fascinating, so i'll indulge this obsession onward. i love wikipedia so much, i can spend hours in hyperfocus researching something completely useless and weird. it's like a huge, thorough encyclopedia! oh, wait...
i hate that my obsessions are kinda, not at all mainstream. if i was interested in sitcoms or sports or a hobby, i could make friends with the help of it! but no, my dumb brain has to care about fictional secret societies, lol.

okay, now i'm done. i could go on though... but typing is boring. eh, i have no one to use as my info garbage bin lol so i'm using this post. sorry again if this isn't right.


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05 Sep 2019, 11:45 am

Is it not wrong at all to ramble about your interests. It's not hurting anybody, it's not breaking any rules, so ramble away! Write it all down here! It's healthy to do that.

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05 Sep 2019, 12:20 pm

I agree.
Ramble away.


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06 Sep 2019, 9:28 am

billowing,

You are a very interesting person. I notice you're a cat person, too! That's definitely a common interest of a lot of people here and you can make a lot of friends discussing pets and animals.



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06 Sep 2019, 9:48 am

Google Books leads me to "The Coming Race," a novel by Bulwer-Lytton ("It was a dark and stormy night"), written in the 1880s:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=vril+society


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06 Sep 2019, 4:35 pm

That is interesting.

Feel free to keep us posted on anything more you learn about it.



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06 Sep 2019, 11:52 pm

I find your interest very fascinating. I'd like to learn more about it. I like it when my fellow members talk about their special interests.


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07 Sep 2019, 2:43 am

Darmok wrote:
Google Books leads me to "The Coming Race," a novel by Bulwer-Lytton ("It was a dark and stormy night"), written in the 1880s:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=vril+society

yes, that's the book the whole seciety was based on. forgot the author earlier. i haven't read it, but i just might


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07 Sep 2019, 2:46 am

IstominFan wrote:
billowing,

You are a very interesting person. I notice you're a cat person, too! That's definitely a common interest of a lot of people here and you can make a lot of friends discussing pets and animals.

thanks! yeah, asking someone in dwindling a conversation, if they want to see pics of my cat always works :mrgreen:


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07 Sep 2019, 3:37 am

here's a page where i got a ton of info about the vril society:

http://viewzone.com/vril22.html

(the article in the link tells a brief summary of what the vril society was up to and their relationship with the nazis, and implies that the nazis got their aryan myth from the novel by Bulwer-Lytton and built a ufo, basically)(disclaimer: this isn't historically accurate, there's no proof any of this even happened!)


the ancient aliens stuff fascinates me, the people who believe in this theory can't believe that human life on earth could've come from nothing at all (aka a few amoeba in a puddle), so they invent these crazy theories of how it was aliens who put humans here. it's like a rebranding of religion, instead of a god the creator, we have aliens who were god, the creator. it's like, we have the science that tells us how we came to be: from meaningless mutations. and some refuse to believe that, human existence must be meaningful! it's funny, too, where do they think the ancient aliens came, if not from evolution on another planet? if they evolved from nothing, why couldn't we, the earth humans? maybe the aliens were created by an even more ancient alien race, and intelligent life is just aliens all the way to the bottom, like with that lady who thought the earth is flat and rests on a giant turtle, who is supported by another, bigger turtle and so on.


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07 Sep 2019, 6:18 am

The Nazis were into the "hallow Earth" notion. That novel must be where they got the idea from.

The Nazis conducted an experiment on an island in German occupied Norway using telescopes to see the other side of the world by looking...straight up....into the night sky. The idea was that we live on the INSIDE surface of the spherical earth, and that the moon and the sun hang in the void inside the earth, and that places like China are on the inside surface of the planet on the opposite side...right above our heads. They failed to see China or whatever.

Or that's what I heard on the History Channel once. Its hard for me to believe that even the Nazis could have been THAT whacky. But maybe they were.



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07 Sep 2019, 9:25 am

billowing,

I definitely love seeing pictures of people's pets.



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07 Sep 2019, 10:02 am

IstominFan wrote:
billowing,

I definitely love seeing pictures of people's pets.

You have got the wrong thread. You want "what is your current obsession?", not "I want to ramble about my [the OP's ownparticular] special interest".



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07 Sep 2019, 10:04 am

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The Nazis were into the "hallow Earth" notion. That novel must be where they got the idea from.

The Nazis conducted an experiment on an island in German occupied Norway using telescopes to see the other side of the world by looking...straight up....into the night sky. The idea was that we live on the INSIDE surface of the spherical earth, and that the moon and the sun hang in the void inside the earth, and that places like China are on the inside surface of the planet on the opposite side...right above our heads. They failed to see China or whatever.

Or that's what I heard on the History Channel once. Its hard for me to believe that even the Nazis could have been THAT whacky. But maybe they were.

what i read was that they did believe in the hollow earth theory, but that we live on the crust of the earth and inside, in the hollow lives an ancient, more advanced race, the "hyperboreans" of whom the "aryans" are related to. apparently you could go inside the earth through a hole in antarctica, which the naxis tried to do? that's the craziness i read :mrgreen: they also believed that in the centre of the earth is another sun, a "black sun" (symbolized by the sonnenrad symbol, which the nazis liked) and the black sun was also the sourse of the vril energy of the bulwer-lytton novel. i don't know why the sun would be black, though...


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07 Sep 2019, 10:15 am

Have heard sumpin about that too. Folks trying to find an entrance to another world via the arctic or Antarctic.

The late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries produced some whacky books. Something was in the air back then. Some books (like the Lord of the Rings, by Tolkien) were presented as fiction. Some, like "Atlantis and the Antedulivian World" by Ignatious Donnelly in the 1890's, were fantasy presented as nonfiction.

The later book tries to prove that there were ancient civilizations on now sunken continents in both the Atlantic and in the Pacific. Empires with radio and diribles flying around in 100 thousand BC. As fantastic as "the Third Age of the Middle Earth", but with less of a plot. :lol:



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07 Sep 2019, 11:12 am

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Have heard sumpin about that too. Folks trying to find an entrance to another world via the arctic or Antarctic.

The late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries produced some whacky books. Something was in the air back then. Some books (like the Lord of the Rings, by Tolkien) were presented as fiction. Some, like "Atlantis and the Antedulivian World" by Ignatious Donnelly in the 1890's, were fantasy presented as nonfiction.

The later book tries to prove that there were ancient civilizations on now sunken continents in both the Atlantic and in the Pacific. Empires with radio and diribles flying around in 100 thousand BC. As fantastic as "the Third Age of the Middle Earth", but with less of a plot. :lol:

yeah, i find that a lot of great fantasy and science fiction were written around that time. in fact my absolute favorite sci fi book, the Island of Dr Moreau by H. G. Wells was written in 1896! something was in the air


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