Some people say the "c" is silent in rap.

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I've heard some people say that the "c" is silent in rap.

Goonies for life, cause Goonies never die.

i only listen to three kinds of music:


crap (country rap)

junk (jazz+funk)


and s**ts (smash hits)

It is, if you pronounce it then the crap connoisseurs get cross …

Some people are imbeciles with rubbish taste but they're entitled to be wrong.

People with limited intellects and vocabularies tend to struggle with comprehending lyrics that rely on metaphors, wordplay, etc, so their poor taste should be understood in that context.

It took me several hours of thinking about this to finally get it

I saw a patriarch of the Carter family (the family the practically invented Country music, and into whom Johnny Cash married into when he married June Carter) on TV saying "what they got on the radio now...it aint exactly country. And it aint exactly rock. So I call it 'crock'".

It's all CRAP!!

Now git offa mah lawn!

I don't get why the intense misogyny in a lot of rap music is ok. To me it's no different than if there was a musical genre that was racist or xenophobic, but it got a pass...because [ insert explanation here ].

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I honestly thought this meant that rappers don't pronounce the letter c.

I don't listen to rap so I couldn't confirm it, but I'm very literal.

Maybe misogyny gets a pass because of the widely-held (yet false) belief that "Only white people are prejudiced".

haha

If they only speak in cliches and unoriginal jokes, these people aren't worth taking that seriously. In my experience, many of them are older and forget what their parents thought of rock and roll.

That’s what I thought at first, too.

It is a rather old joke. The first person I heard say "Rap??? It's short for 'crap'" was Greg Allman, of the Allman Brothers Band while being interviewed on TV doc twenty years ago. And he is typical of musicians of my generation. On the "Black Album" Prince sang the line "the only good rapper is one that's dead". That was of course some years before Prince had to hire a rapper for his band to keep up with times.

But as someone above pointed out- my parents didn't think much of my generation's rocknroll either.

Another generation...another planet.

The same reason it gets a pass in extreme metal, the artists for whom that's their bread and butter tend to have a fan base that isn't offended by it. It isn't a defining trait of the genre even if it's common enough to be a familiar trope. One potential compounding issue that would apply with a lot of hip-hop, but not a lot of extreme metal would be the context of the relationships being described. In a lot of extreme metal (and to be fair, some hip-hop including Eminem) misogynistic violence is being described in the context of either targeting random strangers just because or domestic violence. In a substantial portion of examples of misogynistic references or references to misogynistic violence it's often in the context of members of the criminal underworld who attract hangers-on who are effectively paid retainers, it's not really unreasonable for someone who is admitting that most of their relationships have been along that dynamic to also express that they view partners of that nature as sex trade workers, because odds are, so do the retainers/partners in question. If someone is exchanging 'favours' for money, power or being provided with intoxicants, that's the nature of the exchange and it shouldn't be problematic to call it what it is.

That's also why it tends to be a handful of artists with crossover appeal to pop artists who get more scrutiny than others, because no one cares what some random one-man slamdeath band with a following of 217 fans sings about until he turns to incel terrorism (true case), and similarily, no one cares what some wannabe pimp talks about because his reach is minuscule, but when that person has the stature of Jay-Z or Eminem even attempts to distance themselves won't succeed entirely no matter what the current of their current output is.

I enjoy genres that sometimes express those sorts of issues, but I notice 9/10 when people bring up misogyny in contemporary music they will only focus on the issue in certain genres and while I can't assume racial biases are the reason, it often emerges as part of a broader pattern if a long enough period of examination occurs.