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24 Apr 2021, 12:43 am

I’ve noticed the majority of people who ask for money are deceitful

Seriously there making people jaded to ever help people



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28 Apr 2021, 8:47 pm

Regardless of such a person's background, some such people do make money through legitimate ways of doing so.


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28 Apr 2021, 9:50 pm

Side note: not talking about beggars who need to ask for money to survive



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28 Apr 2021, 10:59 pm

One homeless man always sits in front of a popular grocery store with his dog everyday and sells newspapers for $1 each.


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29 Apr 2021, 12:50 am

We eve some ways for homeless to make money .. we call it the big issue.. it's like a newspaper that they sell and the said person keeps a profit for.. it's a great idea. I generally don't ever buy it but am usually always giving a bit .. perhaps my experiences contribute to that. I ask sometimes for money. Cause I am not good with money etc.. that doesn't mean I'm deceitful as the op stated. Though I can't remember if it was everyone or a majority. :(



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29 Apr 2021, 1:50 am

Sick for almost a month, bit cranky ignore me



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29 Apr 2021, 5:24 am

A few weeks ago a girl I used to know suddenly added me on Facebook, asked how I was and everything, then asked if I could lend her £20 because she was at the supermarket (20+ miles away) and didn't have any money for shopping. I said no because I barely have any myself. I felt guilty saying no because I worried she might start convincing me to lend it to her by guilt-tripping me, but she just accepted it and was polite, so that was OK.


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29 Apr 2021, 8:51 am

Past acquaintances have suddenly reappeared in my life, given me the "old buddy, old friend, old pal" routine, and then asked to "borrow" large amounts of money to allegedly pay for everything from medical bills to college tuition to mortgage payments on the family farm.

I tell them that they should go ask for a loan from the bank.  My reasoning being that if the bank granted them the loan, then they did not need money from me; but if the bank denied them the loan, then they were too much of a credit risk for me to loan them money.

It always turns out that private "borrowers" use the word "loan" to mean "gift", which they never intend to pay back.

So yes, I have to agree with the OP.



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29 Apr 2021, 9:02 am

We have this problem with people begging us for money constantly because of our business, the fact we own a business and a big house with sports cars is like an inevitable magnet for narcissistic behaviour from people.

These days we literally pretend we are broke just to avoid some of these people because the hassle isn't worth it. We donate clothes and £5k worth of rice to the actual desperately poor people in Pakistan, to the people who are actually totally on their arse otherwise I don't see the point donating to people over here because all they want to do is use and abuse.


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29 Apr 2021, 9:11 am

Lunella wrote:
We have this problem with people begging us for money constantly because of our business, the fact we own a business and a big house with sports cars is like an inevitable magnet for narcissistic behaviour from people.
Oh, YES!  Just having a modest house and a minivan or two seems to attract beggars from all over the family tree.
Lunella wrote:
These days we literally pretend we are broke just to avoid some of these people because the hassle isn't worth it. We donate clothes and £5k worth of rice to the actual desperately poor people in Pakistan, to the people who are actually totally on their arse otherwise I don't see the point donating to people over here because all they want to do is use and abuse.
We already support people who can no longer support themselves -- someone was recently surprised that we were NOT residents of a local retirement home because we spend so much time over there!  Supporting people who are fully capable of supporting themselves just seems immoral somehow.  The fact that they may have once held salaried positions does not give them good reason to turn down ordinary hourly positions.



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29 Apr 2021, 7:26 pm

Here in my town, it’s common that there are alot of panhandling going on.



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29 Apr 2021, 7:59 pm

There are also a lot of panhandling where I live as well.


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03 May 2021, 4:19 am

Where I'm originally from, the politicians & the media go on & on about how individuals needing government assistance to get by are frauding the programs & stealing money from the hard-working American taxpayer. They paint disableds & seniors collecting Social Security as if they are crafty con-artists who are simply too lazy to get jobs. & the big businesses go on & on about how they need money from the government in the form of tax breaks & bailouts because their businesses are suffering & are essential to the economy. If the businesses are actually suffering it is because most of their money coming in is going to the salaries & bonuses for their executives & CEOs instead of going into improving their businesses & giving their workers a fair wage. It is very upside down of the way things should really be.


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03 May 2021, 5:35 am

Danusaurus wrote:
We eve some ways for homeless to make money .. we call it the big issue.. it's like a newspaper that they sell and the said person keeps a profit for.. it's a great idea. I generally don't ever buy it but am usually always giving a bit .. perhaps my experiences contribute to that. I ask sometimes for money. Cause I am not good with money etc.. that doesn't mean I'm deceitful as the op stated. Though I can't remember if it was everyone or a majority. :(


I used to buy it until it was taken over and the tone of the magazine went downhill. What were once excellent unbiassed articles changed to become occultic and new ageist in nature and the whole tone of rhe magazine was one I no longer wanted to be associated with.



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04 May 2021, 9:10 am

Fnord wrote:
Lunella wrote:
We have this problem with people begging us for money constantly because of our business, the fact we own a business and a big house with sports cars is like an inevitable magnet for narcissistic behaviour from people.
Oh, YES!  Just having a modest house and a minivan or two seems to attract beggars from all over the family tree.
Lunella wrote:
These days we literally pretend we are broke just to avoid some of these people because the hassle isn't worth it. We donate clothes and £5k worth of rice to the actual desperately poor people in Pakistan, to the people who are actually totally on their arse otherwise I don't see the point donating to people over here because all they want to do is use and abuse.
We already support people who can no longer support themselves -- someone was recently surprised that we were NOT residents of a local retirement home because we spend so much time over there!  Supporting people who are fully capable of supporting themselves just seems immoral somehow.  The fact that they may have once held salaried positions does not give them good reason to turn down ordinary hourly positions.


It is a sad world we live in when you have to be careful of who you give your precious empathy to. The statistics for narcissism/psychopathy comes to about 2 billion of the population. 2 Billion people who are unable to feel empathy, scary.

It is good to share some of the wealth but I agree it does feel immoral giving it to people who could actually do something about it, where you have people who desperately cannot help themselves and these are the ones worthy of the donations imo.

You should see giving out donations of rice in Pakistan, there was about 3 thousand people barging through our grounds gates they even broke the gates off the hinges they were that desperate for food and I'm talking massive 6 ft metal gates. It's an incredibly humbling experience and really makes you value the situation you're in because at least it's not that. They were like fighting each other over the food and the kids were fighting like the adults. Sad times we live in.


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04 May 2021, 9:33 am

Lunella wrote:
... You should see giving out donations of rice in Pakistan, there was about 3 thousand people barging through our grounds gates they even broke the gates off the hinges they were that desperate for food and I'm talking massive 6 ft metal gates.  It's an incredibly humbling experience and really makes you value the situation you're in because at least it's not that.  They were like fighting each other over the food and the kids were fighting like the adults. Sad times we live in.
We had similar experiences in the Philippines after the last major eruption of the Taal volcano.  Our medical team was nearly overwhelmed with all the people needing diagnoses and treatments.  Then we came back to the 'States just as the coronavirus was hitting everyone.  People here complain about having to wear masks; but if they could see a six-year old kid with volcanic ash still in her hair coughing up blood and begging someone to make it better, they might be more inclined to wear that freaking mask!