Does bullying motivate people to change ?

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29 Jan 2022, 12:38 pm

I feel that some narrow-minded, ignorant and nasty people saying hurtful and spiteful words to other people doesn't really help and achieve anything and that it just makes the other person even more hurt, upset and maybe even bad about themselves and I feel that I don't know if I agree that someone else's negative criticism of someone else's lifestyle, looks or behaviour is the right thing to change them and that people should be decent and friendly. I remember someone saying that when they were trying to lose weight, their coach told him that he was a bit of a ''porker'' and said even though saying that would be fat-shaming to some people, it motivated him to change and got him to how he looks now. I remember someone else saying once ''The solution is not to remove the abuse, the solution is to remove the fat.''



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29 Jan 2022, 1:21 pm

Bullying doesn’t work for me—that’s for sure.



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29 Jan 2022, 1:33 pm

It motivated me to change but I am just the exception and not the rule.


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29 Jan 2022, 2:27 pm

To me, people who bully others don't want others to change, they just enjoy others' pain and discomfort. I never met a "well meaning bully"



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29 Jan 2022, 5:10 pm

Like a lot of things, it depends; "bullying" is one of those words that suffered a bit of linguistic drift in recent years, with people using it now to refer to behaviors that would have previously been thought of as tough love, affectionate ball busting, letting the air out of someone, etc.


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29 Jan 2022, 8:36 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Like a lot of things, it depends; "bullying" is one of those words that suffered a bit of linguistic drift in recent years, with people using it now to refer to behaviors that would have previously been thought of as tough love, affectionate ball busting, letting the air out of someone, etc.



"Bullying" is also when a bunchy of people disagree with you or when a lot of people call you out on your BS or when your beliefs are challenged. "Bullying" is also when you criticize their lord. Did you know "political bullying" is a thing now?


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29 Jan 2022, 8:47 pm

It never did for me.

Except some aspects of me are enhanced... And most of those aspects are negative -- wrath, pride, violence, callousness, impatience, etc.

It doesn't help me grow. Only respond to threats, which isn't an ideal form of learning.



When bullying became a non threat for me, it's just apathy and/or temptation...
No good inspiration to draw from such experience.

Maybe except a motive to dare to crush those perpetrators and hit them where it hurts.


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29 Jan 2022, 9:00 pm

I am not certain what the OP is asking but bullying has motivated some victims to achieve great things. This is infact a common theme in Hollywood movies where a kid who experiences bullying (from peers or parents) grows up to be a great person who achieves great things.

However, for a lot of people, bullying scars them for life, destroys their self-esteem and creates mistrust of other people that never fully heals.

Bullying seems to be allowed to fester in schools for some reason.



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29 Jan 2022, 11:26 pm

League_Girl wrote:
"Bullying" is also when a bunchy of people disagree with you or when a lot of people call you out on your BS or when your beliefs are challenged. "Bullying" is also when you criticize their lord. Did you know "political bullying" is a thing now?


I don't think you understand how this works; see, when the other guys do this, it's bullying, but when we do it, it's just vigorous criticism, it's very simple and consistent. In fact, whether or not something is bullying or not can be determined entirely without reference to the specific behavior at all, it's entirely a function of which side is doing it to whom.


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29 Jan 2022, 11:56 pm

no, it doesnt. and when someone bullies me, i get very argumentative



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30 Jan 2022, 12:11 am

The only motivation bullies gave me is to become a recluse.



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30 Jan 2022, 3:12 am

tl;dr what MuddRM said

That'd depend in the individual.

I've always been bullied in any social group of peers, mostly school/college. As I, different, everyone can sense it, and the odd autistic out gets that attention no one really wants. It kinda made me jaded when it comes to humanity, because it makes you feel like everyone is against you, and it's not something that I will do, nor do I understand it. I had that all or nothing deal when it comes to conflict, which got me into trouble a few times, as I couldn't respond to verbal bullying when younger (far less adapt with words back then), so I'd just go physical. This is entirely due to the autism here, which makes it feel worse as it really isn't a modifiable factor. I went from moderate to high functioning, but most of the bullying came during the high-era.

It's probably why I don't go looking for friends.

I later on saw that real fighting and now just don't give a f**k about much of anything when it comes to humans, and my faith in humanity flatlined.



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30 Jan 2022, 12:41 pm

It causes changes in the victim, unusually bad changes to the delight of the bullies.


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30 Jan 2022, 12:53 pm

Nothing positive ever! Comes from bullying . It breeds bad feelings, hate and contempt .
Especially with younger adults and children…. They will become a product of their environment , unless there is some sort of intervention . That can come from a variety of places . Usually bully’s lack the wits or understanding to engage people in a better manner, often suffering from a underlying situation of poor self esteem.


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30 Jan 2022, 4:55 pm

There are loads of different types of bullying and they all have different purposes. It is best not to praise bullying really, as some people have suffered terribly. I suffered the emotional bullying and the social rejection bullying the most, which is more subtle and can't always be noticed by onlookers (it only gets noticed by the victim). It hasn't made me learn much, it's only given me social anxiety and a crippling fear of rejection.


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31 Jan 2022, 12:56 am

The other week I read a post by someone on Reddit saying they were once beaten up in middle school for wearing a Super Mario shirt.

So I guess the lesson here is never wear anything with a character you like on it no matter what, or you will be physically attacked because there will always be someone who hates that character. :(

I was bullied and harassed from middle school until my late 20s for wearing Garfield shirts.

Of all Earth's creatures, none are more deliberately cruel and sadistic than a human child. :x