How many jabs do we really need ?

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I've heard here in the UK they will be rolling out fourth covid jabs for the elderly and the more vulnerable. It is making me think we'll how many more times do need to vaccinate especially those who are not vulnerable and are fit and healthy because before all this they were not advocating fit and healthy people to always have flu jabs every winter unlike the elderly which are recommended to have one because of their vulnerability. It does sound like I might be talking like those anti-vaxx people but honestly I am not anti-vaxx, I am pro-vaccine but I just feel unsure if this is the way to keep going. I've watched some videos from a guy called Dr. John Campbell and he reckons that it maybe is not a good idea to keep on vaccinating/boosting because that might also do the opposite and suppress the cells that enable the immune system to fight the virus.

the jabs will continue until morale improves. [snark ]

Oddly enough I couldnt find Carl Sagan saying it. But I did find Donald Trump, and Elmer Fudd.

Enough is enough. I had to go through the torture of the side effects of the vaccines twice and I've enough pain in my life as it is. "Oh but the virus is much worse than the side effects". Whatever, if the sheer idiocy of the human race hasn't made me sick by now, nothing else will.

Other people get the vaccine and are like "I'm fine, no problems at all", or "My arm got a little sore, but that's it". Not me. I've always been sensitive to the side effects many kinds of medication so it's no surprise the vaccines would do the same thing. I've had a long history of suffering really bad side effects from all the toxic medications that psychiatrists forced me to take for years and those quacks should all be sued for every cent they have.

Strangely enough, I've never had any unusual problems from getting the flu shot every year, however.

I guess the answer to "How many jabs do we really need?" is, "How many jabs does it really take?"

The answer to "How many jabs does it really take?" might be something along the lines of, "What is our current knowledge base of the virus compared to the virus' current evolution of variants?"

The tl;dr answer might be, "It depends, and the database it depends on is constantly changing."

I've gotten 2 and I don't anticipate getting vaccinated against COVID again.

just got my booster. don't know about the future. haven't gotten a flu shot since 2004. i don't enjoy being a fleshy pin cushion.

When I was in an accident and I was offered another tetanus shot I didn't say, "Again? How many do I need?". I took it because I had an open wound with dirt in it and I didn't want to take a chance.

I feel the same about additional boosters. The general public are an open wound and I don't trust them.

Theoretically, you'll need one every 6-9 months or so for a genome sequence matched vaccine if one wishes to be reasonably well protected against infection since antibodies are of short duration for respiratory coronaviruses. You'll still have immune memory far beyond that 6 months against the virus that will work as long as enough of the b and/or t-cell epitopes of the current circulating mutant are conserved compared to the vaccine antigen/s or a previous infection, albeit it won't be a silver bullet.

I never got one. Mostly because I couldn't get to a clinic that was offering them, and by the time the local chemist got around to it, Omicron came around, so I didn't see any point to it (you need high levels of antibodies to protect against infection from such, and it's looking closer to 3 months than 6 months when it comes to protection from infection with the outdated vaccines). I only cared/care about passing it on to a loved one, and for the very vulnerable one, I have no idea how it'd go with her illnesses, as autoimmune conditions can often be exacerbated by viral infections. It's why I've always worn and wear proper PPE (no one wears even basic cloth stuff anymore here). I've never been too worried though, as once I saw the CFR drop quickly outside of Wuhan, I felt that relief for those I cared/care about. It sorta looked like SARS very early on, where the majority get severe illness.

My doctor doesn't seem too concerned about it anymore anyway (Omicron), and she'll have seen a lot of people with it by now. She didn't seem bothered at all that I wasn't vaccinated either.

I struggle to calculate how many people would have to be infected with Omicron (Herd immunity threshold: 86%) or vaccinated when there is more than 7 billion people and right now covid has infected more 450 million people so far and over 5 billion people have been vaccinated (with one dose). I just seem to think the virus despite its higher transmissibility is quite slow in trying to get to 7 billion people.

I got three peas in a pod....I mean jabs.

I've got both shots and a booster.

How many jabs do we really need ?

As many as it takes to maintain the pharmaceutical company's healthy profit margin.

By the time we’ve elimated covid entirely, we could be on our 20th jab or potentially lose count just like the common flu jab.