Why can't Elon Musk give everyone some of his money?

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08 Jun 2023, 7:26 pm

I read somewhere that he has about £180 billion. If he gave everyone in the world £1 billion each hunger will be solved and so would the cost of living crisis. And he'll still have £172 billion left for his greedy self. (Yes I know dollars but I don't know what all these figures are in English money so I just put a £ sign in front of it to feel more British).

Or if that's too unrealistic then why don't he give everyone £1 million? It's not fair how one man could be so f*****g rich yet there are millions of people living in poverty all over the world.

This is where the world is wrong. Nobody needs that much money. It could be shared out.


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08 Jun 2023, 8:14 pm

Rule Of Acquisition #261~ "A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience"

Lots of people with wealth or power are greedy & want to hold on to it. it's one of the biggest problems with capitalism.


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08 Jun 2023, 8:39 pm

Your math is off, but I agree with you in principle. The idea you've expressed is basically the whole point of increasing taxes on billionaires.



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08 Jun 2023, 8:46 pm

uncommondenominator wrote:
Your math is off, but I agree with you in principle. The idea you've expressed is basically the whole point of increasing taxes on billionaires.


I'm basically dyslexic when it comes to math. :)

Why don't the rich get taxed? How's that fair?


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08 Jun 2023, 8:51 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I read somewhere that he has about £180 billion. . .
Given that there are about 8,000,000,000 people in the world, each person would receive only about £22.5; but if something was lost in translation, and you mean £180,000,000, then each person would receive only £0.225.  Either way, most people would burn through their allotment in less than a day.



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08 Jun 2023, 9:42 pm

I can't speak for everyone, only myself. My husband and I are not wealthy, we have really only just gotten ahead enough to not be in debt. And we can eat 3 meals/day. Occasionally we can get some small thing we might want. I was always terrible at managing money. The way I managed money was if I didn't have it, I didn't spend it. That was my strategy. It's no way to live. The only thing that helped me get better was a class on household finance and paying my bills. I learned how little I needed beyond a roof, food, gas to get to work, etc...

If Elon decided to open up a soup kitchen, or a hostel and breakfast, that would be money well spent. Just to dump money onto people can sometimes be a death sentence. Going from flat broke to rich is like going from prison to freedom with no halfway house in between. They are broke again in no time (similar to the way parolees reoffend). I don't know why it's that way, but it is. Money is great, but it's tricky. I wouldn't ever want to have to figure out how to do life as a billionaire. I'm much better suited having an alarm clock and a dependable way to expend my energy, also a library card.


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08 Jun 2023, 10:01 pm

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Why don't the rich get taxed? How's that fair?
The rich don't want fairnese. They'd rather use their wealth to influence politicians to write the tax code & laws in their favor. At least that's the way things are here in America the land of opportunity :roll:


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08 Jun 2023, 10:02 pm

Joe90 wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
Your math is off, but I agree with you in principle. The idea you've expressed is basically the whole point of increasing taxes on billionaires.


I'm basically dyslexic when it comes to math. :)

Why don't the rich get taxed? How's that fair?


They do, just not at a high enough rate. Further, tax codes typically give them too many ways to protect income from taxation.


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08 Jun 2023, 10:28 pm

Joe90 wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
Your math is off, but I agree with you in principle. The idea you've expressed is basically the whole point of increasing taxes on billionaires.


I'm basically dyslexic when it comes to math. :)

Why don't the rich get taxed? How's that fair?


No worries, big numbers cause difficulties for many people. It's an easy thing to get caught by.

It really isn't fair, and that's why so many people want it to happen.

But super rich people have a multitude of means and ways to dupe the public, and manipulate the outcome of decisions made by the government, both directly and indirectly, internally and externally. Tax evasion is almost an American past-time.



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09 Jun 2023, 4:22 am

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I read somewhere that he has about £180 billion. If he gave everyone in the world £1 billion each hunger will be solved and so would the cost of living crisis. And he'll still have £172 billion left for his greedy self. (Yes I know dollars but I don't know what all these figures are in English money so I just put a £ sign in front of it to feel more British).

Or if that's too unrealistic then why don't he give everyone £1 million? It's not fair how one man could be so f*****g rich yet there are millions of people living in poverty all over the world.

This is where the world is wrong. Nobody needs that much money. It could be shared out.


Your math is so far off that it destroys any point you're trying to make.

There are seven (or is it eight now?) BILLION people on earth. So if Elon Musk only had eight billion pounds he could only give each person on the planet ONE pound.

Even if has 180 billion pounds he wouldnt be able to "give each person on Earth a billion pounds". He could only give us each a little more than 20 pounds. Like fifty dollars US. Enough to fill your gas tank, plus a fast food meal maybe.

Granted that that IS a lot of cabbage for just one person to have. But he cant give billions of people a billion each. :lol:



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09 Jun 2023, 5:09 am

I agree with everything Nick007 says… and extra kudos for quoting the rules of acquisition.

I’ve often wondered… what’s the difference between 5billion and 10billion (apart from the obvious 5billion). A mere 5billion will buy you anything you want.

The truth is, the mega rich guy just HAS to have more than the mega rich guy next door. It’s part of their DNA.


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09 Jun 2023, 5:26 am

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I read somewhere that he has about £180 billion. If he gave everyone in the world £1 billion each hunger will be solved and so would the cost of living crisis. And he'll still have £172 billion left for his greedy self. (Yes I know dollars but I don't know what all these figures are in English money so I just put a £ sign in front of it to feel more British).

Or if that's too unrealistic then why don't he give everyone £1 million? It's not fair how one man could be so f*****g rich yet there are millions of people living in poverty all over the world.

This is where the world is wrong. Nobody needs that much money. It could be shared out.


Your math is so far off that it destroys any point you're trying to make.

There are seven (or is it eight now?) BILLION people on earth. So if Elon Musk only had eight billion pounds he could only give each person on the planet ONE pound.

Even if has 180 billion pounds he wouldnt be able to "give each person on Earth a billion pounds". He could only give us each a little more than 20 pounds. Like fifty dollars US. Enough to fill your gas tank, plus a fast food meal maybe.

Granted that that IS a lot of cabbage for just one person to have. But he cant give billions of people a billion each. :lol:


I did not work it out myself. Got it from this. Image
Sorry can't get the image to show up on this complicated site.
The image said: Elon Musk has 180B, there are 8B on Earth. If he gave us each 1B he'd still have 172B left.


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09 Jun 2023, 12:38 pm

Joe90 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
I read somewhere that he has about £180 billion. If he gave everyone in the world £1 billion each hunger will be solved and so would the cost of living crisis. And he'll still have £172 billion left for his greedy self. (Yes I know dollars but I don't know what all these figures are in English money so I just put a £ sign in front of it to feel more British).

Or if that's too unrealistic then why don't he give everyone £1 million? It's not fair how one man could be so f*****g rich yet there are millions of people living in poverty all over the world.

This is where the world is wrong. Nobody needs that much money. It could be shared out.


Your math is so far off that it destroys any point you're trying to make.

There are seven (or is it eight now?) BILLION people on earth. So if Elon Musk only had eight billion pounds he could only give each person on the planet ONE pound.

Even if has 180 billion pounds he wouldnt be able to "give each person on Earth a billion pounds". He could only give us each a little more than 20 pounds. Like fifty dollars US. Enough to fill your gas tank, plus a fast food meal maybe.

Granted that that IS a lot of cabbage for just one person to have. But he cant give billions of people a billion each. :lol:


I did not work it out myself. Got it from this. Image
Sorry can't get the image to show up on this complicated site.
The image said: Elon Musk has [i]180B, there are 8B on Earth. If he gave us each 1B he'd still have 172B left.[/i]



That's if he gave us each $1.

8 billion x $1 = $8 billion
8 billion x $1 billion = exponentially more


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09 Jun 2023, 12:40 pm

If I had all that money I wouldn't even tell anyone


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09 Jun 2023, 1:19 pm

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Joe90 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
I read somewhere that he has about £180 billion. If he gave everyone in the world £1 billion each hunger will be solved and so would the cost of living crisis. And he'll still have £172 billion left for his greedy self. (Yes I know dollars but I don't know what all these figures are in English money so I just put a £ sign in front of it to feel more British).

Or if that's too unrealistic then why don't he give everyone £1 million? It's not fair how one man could be so f*****g rich yet there are millions of people living in poverty all over the world.

This is where the world is wrong. Nobody needs that much money. It could be shared out.


Your math is so far off that it destroys any point you're trying to make.

There are seven (or is it eight now?) BILLION people on earth. So if Elon Musk only had eight billion pounds he could only give each person on the planet ONE pound.

Even if has 180 billion pounds he wouldnt be able to "give each person on Earth a billion pounds". He could only give us each a little more than 20 pounds. Like fifty dollars US. Enough to fill your gas tank, plus a fast food meal maybe.

Granted that that IS a lot of cabbage for just one person to have. But he cant give billions of people a billion each. :lol:


I did not work it out myself. Got it from this. Image
Sorry can't get the image to show up on this complicated site.
The image said: Elon Musk has [i]180B, there are 8B on Earth. If he gave us each 1B he'd still have 172B left.[/i]



That's if he gave us each $1.

8 billion x $1 = $8 billion
8 billion x $1 billion = exponentially more


So the meme was wrong. :scratch:


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09 Jun 2023, 1:20 pm

Must have been. Don't worry about it.


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