Any Wikipedia Admins here? Cyberbullying incident

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09 Dec 2010, 2:17 am

Hi all, I'm just wondering how do I report cyberbullying on wikipedia. I'm user whitewater111, and am being constantly targeted by this AussieLegend and Jayjg. I'm vision impaired with asperger syndrome and find the multilayered pages confusing.

Having asperger syndrome means that I've been looking for work since leaving school in 1988. Though I've done several courses and work experiences, I've never been able to find paid employment. This has led me to starting up my own internet radio station, which now has been going for ten years. After several years of testing, I launched the station about a month ago, and feel it should be a good alternative to paid work.

During January, I got some press coverage, which led to my station being listed on wikipedia, which had greatly improved my google ranking and visitor flow to my site.

Unfortunately the recent attention I got, may of set off some ill will from possibly a rival station. I have over 10,000 tracks in my playlist, which may of unnerved some commercial FM stations in my city.

Suddenly last week, I found my 2PR FM article vandalised, and proposed for deletion, it had pushed me into a meltdown, thinking that someone wanted to do such a thing. This was particularly so when about a minute after my revertion, the deletion notice was put back. I then reverted it back, and reported this AussieLegend for vandalism. Two minutes later I was banned. Now I knew someone had a agenda to wipe me off wikipedia. I then used a proxy to hack myself back into wikipedia. I created a new account, and had one more go at reverting it back. In the end that account was banned to, this guy really wants my head chopped off. I checked further down the list, and saw another user Jayjg also contributing to the greif.

These users appear to have an agenda against internet radio, citing referenced articles about web radio stations for deletion as 'not notable' whilst vehemently defending articles about over the air stations with non-third-party sources. Attempts to discuss any problems with him result in flaming responses. I've also received personal attacks in my PMs folder, and has threatened to block me with his administrator standing. I would idealy like to get him banned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2PR_FM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... _FM#2PR_FM

If they are any Wikipedia Admins here with banning privileges, it would be much appreciated.

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09 Dec 2010, 6:47 am

I'm sorry to hear about that starstuffing. I have low vision myself & DJed for an online station a short time years ago. I haven't worked in a couple years now. I'm not sure what you should do about the bullying thou except try reporting it to Wiki.

This reminds me of that Weird Al Yankovic; White & Nerdy vid. In one part of the vid he's writing "You S#ck" on James Blunt's wiki page(Al got permission from Blunt to do a parody of his song You're Beautiful but Blunt didn't OK it with his record label & they had a problem with it. Al's label didn't want to go to war with Blunt's so Al released the song online instead & pushed back the release date his CD so he could put two more songs on) After White & Nerdy vid premiered; lots of people started writing "You S#ck" on Blunt's page :lol:
Anyways getting back to the original post; you could be rite about it being a rival radio-station. A DJ might of made a comment on the air or online that listeners might of took the wrong way. You should investigate


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09 Dec 2010, 8:43 am

wikipedia lock pages when that keeps happening.

not sure how you go about doing it,



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09 Dec 2010, 4:47 pm

oliverthered wrote:
wikipedia lock pages when that keeps happening.

not sure how you go about doing it,


Navigating wikipedia for me is rather confusing, as I find it hard to focus on the maze of pages and code needed to do the appropriate actions. Now that my station has been wiped from wikipedia, I don't know what further to do, or who to contact.

I guess drawing the analogy from my youth, you're confronted with ten kids, two of them with a cricket (baseball) bat, wanting the smash your head off, anything I do seems to just aggravate the situation.

I signed in under a different user only two days ago, and when I reverted it back again, I got a message telling me to "stop disrupting" things on there. They are some admins on there that think their god.



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09 Dec 2010, 5:31 pm

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx = FCC and FBI (I don't know if this will help you.)

Have you thought about hiring a lawyer and suing?


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09 Dec 2010, 5:36 pm

starstuffing wrote:
oliverthered wrote:
wikipedia lock pages when that keeps happening.

not sure how you go about doing it,


This is quite along reply, but I've put everything I've gleaned from wikipedia in here, with the links. as I've found the information regarding each topic and subtopic and alternative I've posted the information I've found, with links etc....

The two important ones for you would be at the bottom, the last is page protection, the second to last is about making more 'immediate' complaints or requests. You may not 'generally' fall into that category, but in light of the difficulties you have I can't see anyone expecting you to mess around with some other drawn out process, especially if you had to ask assistance from others how to do it in the first place, after becoming distressed and having a meltdown.


Navigating wikipedia for me is rather confusing, as I find it hard to focus on the maze of pages and code needed to do the appropriate actions. Now that my station has been wiped from wikipedia, I don't know what further to do, or who to contact.

I guess drawing the analogy from my youth, you're confronted with ten kids, two of them with a cricket (baseball) bat, wanting the smash your head off, anything I do seems to just aggravate the situation.

I signed in under a different user only two days ago, and when I reverted it back again, I got a message telling me to "stop disrupting" things on there. They are some admins on there that think their god.


ok I'll have a poke around 4 u, and leave a few alarms set so I rember if the ADHD gets the better of me and I start reading acticles or something.

unfortunately I'm on a mobile broadband NAT so my IP is blocked from doing anything.

but I should be able to dig up details of how to do it, and I'm sure some kind person will be able to make them aware of your circumstance and things will get resolved (hopefully quickly)[that's assuming I can't contact them].


ok...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism

"Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. Vandalism cannot and will not be tolerated. Common types of vandalism are the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, and the insertion of nonsense into articles."


"Committing vandalism violates Wikipedia policy. If you find that another user has vandalized Wikipedia you should revert these changes; you may also warn the user (see below for specific instructions). Users who vandalize Wikipedia repeatedly, despite warnings to stop, should be reported to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, and administrators may block them. Note that warnings are not always required: accounts whose main or only use is obvious vandalism or other forbidden activity may be blocked without warning."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... _vandalism

What is not vandalism:
Harassment or personal attacks

Personal attacks and harassment are not allowed. While some harassment is also vandalism, such as user page vandalism, or inserting a personal attack into an article, harassment in itself is not vandalism and should be handled differently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... al_attacks

What is considered to be a personal attack?

There is no rule that is objective and not open to interpretation on what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are never acceptable:
Racial, sexual, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities) directed against another contributor. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual orientation, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse.
Using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views—regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream. An example could be "you're a train spotter so what would you know about fashion?" Note that although pointing out an editor's relevant conflict of interest and its relevance to the discussion at hand is not considered a personal attack, speculating on the real life identity of another editor may constitute outing, which is a serious offense.
Linking to external attacks, harassment, or other material, for the purpose of attacking another editor.
Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence. Evidence often takes the form of diffs and links presented on wiki. Sometimes evidence is kept private and made available to trusted users.
Threats, including, but not limited to:
Threats of legal action
Threats of violence or other off-wiki action (particularly death threats)
Threats of vandalism to userpages or talk pages.
Threats or actions which deliberately expose other Wikipedia editors to political, religious or other persecution by government, their employer or any others. Violations of this sort may result in a block for an extended period of time, which may be applied immediately by any administrator upon discovery. Admins applying such sanctions should confidentially notify the members of the Arbitration Committee of what they have done and why.
Threats to out an editor.
These examples are not exhaustive. Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done. When in doubt, comment on the article's content without referring to its contributor at all.

First offenses and isolated incidents
Sometimes the best way to respond to an isolated personal attack is not to respond at all. Wikipedia and its debates can become stressful for some editors, who may occasionally overreact. Additionally, Wikipedia discussions are in a text-only medium that conveys nuances and emotions poorly; this can easily lead to misunderstanding. While personal attacks are not excused because of these factors, editors are encouraged to disregard angry and ill-mannered postings of others when it is reasonable to do so, and to continue to focus their efforts on improving and developing the encyclopedia.
If you feel that a response is necessary and desirable, you should leave a polite message on the other user's talk page. Do not respond on a talk page of an article; this tends to escalate matters. Likewise, it is important to avoid becoming hostile and confrontational yourself, even in the face of abuse. Although templates have been used at times for this purpose, a customized message relating to the specific situation is often better received. When possible, try to find compromise or common ground regarding the underlying issues of content, rather than argue about behavior.
Personal attacks do not include civil language used to describe an editor's actions, and when made without involving their personal character, should not be construed as personal attacks, for instance, stating "Your statement is a personal attack..." is not itself a personal attack.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI

so I would say, inlight of your circumstances and as you honestly feel it's a personal attack and have limited ability to respond.

try;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI
first, as that should have the most immediate response from wikipedia.

there is also this: (requests for page protection)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... protection



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09 Dec 2010, 5:36 pm

any trouble PM me.



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09 Dec 2010, 6:07 pm

here you go, I put something on the administrators forum,you'll need to get in-touch or make addictions to what I've put. but I've tried to explain the situation in as impartial way as possible, but making note that you are having significant difficulty and some of the reasons why this may be above and beyond normal users and so warrant a little extra guidance and assistance.

hope this gets things sorted for you. any problems pm me.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... 13#3234813



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09 Dec 2010, 6:16 pm

I saw the Thread at WP:ANI, and here to discuss what is going on. I also have Aspergers and as unaware of this Forum

Anything I can do here?

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09 Dec 2010, 6:16 pm

oliverthered wrote:
any trouble PM me.


Yep, they have deleted 2PR FM from the media section of the "Sydney" page. The 2PR FM page has also been deleted, and now they are attacking the page about me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Boerebach

Someone is really out there to finish me off good and proper, they just want to wipe me off the face of the internet, and I am at a total loss.



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09 Dec 2010, 6:33 pm

It is extremely frustrating and I understand why you are upset.
However, the issue here

For you
See Wikipedia:BIO

Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia that utilizes third party sources to support content it has written in it.

Currently the Articles for Deletion discussion is focussing on your whether you meet the notability guidelines of Wikipedia:BIO. This is not about you this is about whether you biography meets the guideline for inclusion. It is not over yet do you have old news clippings of your television, Newpapers, books mentions on you?
It seems there is some coverage from the article? if more of these can be found and added then it will likely be kept.

Your station Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)
I can not see what state the article was in before it was deleted. Was it a radio station or online?
I can see about getting it undeleted and put in my user space I can see if we can get back into the mainspace.
But again we need third party coverage IE more than just your stations website.

Does this make sense?



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09 Dec 2010, 6:47 pm

Dont dont recreate it again, been marked for speedy deleltion and will be deleted shortly.

now its gone will you engage in dialogue here I want to help!



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09 Dec 2010, 7:02 pm

TheAnthropologist wrote:
It is extremely frustrating and I understand why you are upset.
However, the issue here

For you
See Wikipedia:BIO

Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia that utilizes third party sources to support content it has written in it.

Currently the Articles for Deletion discussion is focussing on your whether you meet the notability guidelines of Wikipedia:BIO. This is not about you this is about whether you biography meets the guideline for inclusion. It is not over yet do you have old news clippings of your television, Newpapers, books mentions on you?
It seems there is some coverage from the article? if more of these can be found and added then it will likely be kept.

Your station Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)
I can not see what state the article was in before it was deleted. Was it a radio station or online?
I can see about getting it undeleted and put in my user space I can see if we can get back into the mainspace.
But again we need third party coverage IE more than just your stations website.

Does this make sense?


The funny thing was that it was 2PR FM that had most of the third party sources, yet that was the first targeted for deletion. Here was a snapshot of the article I managed to save in the heat of battle.

http://www.webcitation.org/5uoidx6j8

Note though the first four links are from my website, the bottom four links are from newspapers.



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09 Dec 2010, 7:05 pm

I posted the wrong link, I've reported it on the wikiepdia administrators notice board, which is for immediate action on unsavoury disputes.

make additions here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... oing_issue


I've put what I could glean in as impartial a way as possible. (more by way of allegation over fact, but with debilitating results, but to keep myself impartial as I'm not partial to the whole story and so didn't want to overstep the mark)

I've made comment that it may have been possible to resolve this by going through other means, but that it was insurmountable for you, for various reasons you've mentioned. so hopefully this should mean that you get a helping hand and not hassle because they think your over-reacting cos their more NT.



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09 Dec 2010, 7:08 pm

I count 4 3rd party citations about you I see nothing on the station

But it seems those sources would be more than suffficent to get you Biography kept.

Are there any more sources you know of about you that extend beyond your setting up the radio station?



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09 Dec 2010, 7:08 pm

here are some further links to support my case:

Here's and article on me from Think Big.
http://cde.cerosmedia.com/1P492bf6709fd ... de/page/16

Here an official SBS release about me:
http://au.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGk3KKbg ... elease.pdf

And here's a bit of a low down from the Anchorage Film Festival.
http://anchorage.bside.com/2010/films/r ... horage2010