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Irulan
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12 Oct 2007, 9:16 am

I read few days ago about a young man, suspected of killing another dude who having commited the crime run away and now he is hiding from the police. His parents beg him to return, promising they'll stand by him, doesn't matter what he did.

There was a forum discussion concerning the case described in said article and someone raised an issue that there should be double norms for family members and strangers - we hate a stranger who kills but parents should always defend their child, have forgiveness for him and be with him even if he's evil only because it's their own son; their genes and blood of their own blood. Such a point of view is terribly stupid, deprived of elementary logic.

Having such a son I'd like him to pay for his crime. I'd like to see him dead. He disgraced a good name of his family. And what about you? Or maybe you have a criminal in your family and if you do, how is/was he treated by his closest relatives?



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12 Oct 2007, 11:57 am

I think that I would have been afraid if I had a criminal in my family, when I was growing up. Depending on the type of criminal, I would have been afraid of being raped, beaten, or having my money stolen.


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12 Oct 2007, 12:22 pm

I was a minor petty charity scammer and when I confessed to my parents they never ratted on me. :) They might now that I've posted this, lol.



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12 Oct 2007, 12:33 pm

My aspie father said to me to just stay away from the relative but his siblings who are not aspies but good instigators made a point of keeping the guy close and I honestly believe it is so they can sneer at him while they embrace him as they hope for his downfall. My dad's siblings are a lifetime of research in a kind of low grade and constantly switched on malevolence towards others. They'll physically embrace the person trying to manipulate a moral alibi for himself while sneering and coldly denying any such knowledge of his excuses to his third parties. With family like this, I learned a great deal about how people will eff you over at the slightest chance and they will lie through their teeth. I was finished with them at an early age and I think it is a weak ego that cannot stay away from them. The criminal is no better than his unsympathetic extended family but the extended family continues to exist sub rosa.



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12 Oct 2007, 2:08 pm

Ana54 wrote:
I was a minor petty charity scammer and when I confessed to my parents they never ratted on me. :) They might now that I've posted this, lol.


But it's not the same what a murder like in case of guy from that article. Btw, when I was in kindergarten, once I stole one toy - a plastic fish :lol: My mother not only didn't punish me but helped me to take the toy from the building when she came for me 8O I must add she's generally an honest person.



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12 Oct 2007, 2:09 pm

My nephew killed his step-father. His mum testified at the trial regarding his actions. He is in jail for life. But his mum goes to see him regular.


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12 Oct 2007, 2:22 pm

I've just recalled about my aunt's mather-in-law who strangled (according to some relatives, on purpose) aunt's newborn baby. I have no idea if she did it deliberately, it looked this way that my aunt had given birth to twins and when they were coming home from the hospital, aunt was holding her daughter and her mother-in-law was holding the baby boy. I don't know how the truth looked like but she was said to squeeze him too much and the baby passed away. My grandma always claimed that woman didn't want her son had twins because it would be much more expensive than having only one child. She wasn't accused of anything, didn't go to prison or wasn't punished in another way, aunt didn't have a grudge against her claiming that her son died of natural causes because he was very weak but I don't know all the truth.



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12 Oct 2007, 2:56 pm

I think a lot of people know my answer. My brother is a criminal, he sexually abused me,a nd my parents stood by him. I don't think I'll ever forgive them for doing that.



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12 Oct 2007, 3:36 pm

one of my sisters is a criminal and i still like her


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12 Oct 2007, 4:11 pm

I think I would try and look at things in a balanced way as I would with a non related criminal and then decide on my course of action. Most likely, I would not stand by a rapist or murderer in the family unless there was VERY good justification for the killing, such as self defence.