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07 Aug 2008, 2:53 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7547118.stm


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07 Aug 2008, 3:06 pm

Make mine a Guiness Stout.


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07 Aug 2008, 3:06 pm

Been through this a bunch of times already.

1. Scientists calculated the risks and concluded there was no significant chance of a doomsday scenario.
2. Scientists calculated for five more years and reached the same conclusion.
3. On the small chance that the collider does produce "Micro black holes", they would either disintegrate due to Hawking radiation or pass right through the planet.
4. I can't remember exactly what they said, but the strangelets theory isn't likely to happen either.
5. The chance that any of these things does happen is about the same as winning the lottery three days in a row.
6. People were saying these things about the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider, which has been running for years.


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07 Aug 2008, 3:21 pm

scientists will destroy the world because science is a religion it also dehumanizes us and refuses to recognize the obvious evidence of things that cannot be tested which is why science refuses to recognize that the lhc is going to destroy the world because they are prying into things which man was not meant to know and i;m going to say i told you so to everyone when the entire earth gets sucked into a black hole some meddling scientist made because of their hoobris this is just like the atomic bomb which is also going to destroy the world and frankenstein crops and genetic engineering and penicillin


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07 Aug 2008, 3:23 pm

And their atomic supermen with octagonal-shaped bodies that suck blood...

I think science needs to slow down a bit, and focus on helping with the problems that affect the average person.


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07 Aug 2008, 3:24 pm

twoshots wrote:
scientists will destroy the world because science is a religion it also dehumanizes us and refuses to recognize the obvious evidence of things that cannot be tested which is why science refuses to recognize that the lhc is going to destroy the world because they are prying into things which man was not meant to know and i;m going to say i told you so to everyone when the entire earth gets sucked into a black hole some meddling scientist made because of their hoobris this is just like the atomic bomb which is also going to destroy the world and frankenstein crops and genetic engineering and penicillin


Its hubris btw. Are you serious?



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07 Aug 2008, 3:33 pm

I don't think they will find the Higgs Boson, although it may be the reason why we are not hearing any advanced extraterrestrial civilizations, as they reach the level to detect the particle, it destroys their planet by sucking into a singularity. wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!



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07 Aug 2008, 3:35 pm

It would be an exciting way to die ; being sucked into an artificial black hole.



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07 Aug 2008, 4:03 pm

twoshots wrote:
scientists will destroy the world...

Evidence, Please?

twoshots wrote:
... science is a religion...

Evidence, Please?

twoshots wrote:
... it also dehumanizes us...

Evidence, Please?

twoshots wrote:
... and refuses to recognize the obvious evidence of things that cannot be tested...

Evidence, Please?

twoshots wrote:
... science refuses to recognize that the lhc is going to destroy the world...

Evidence, Please?

twoshots wrote:
... they are prying into things which man was not meant to know...

Evidence, Please?

twoshots wrote:
... and i;m going to say i told you so to everyone when the entire earth gets sucked into a black hole some meddling scientist made...

If the entire Earth gets sucked into a black hole, then you won't be around to say anything.

twoshots wrote:
because of their hoobris this is just like the atomic bomb which is also going to destroy the world...

Evidence, Please? You can destroy the world only once, by the way. So if the Earth has been sucked into a black hole, then there won't be world to destroy, nor will any attomic bombs survive the destruction, either.

twoshots wrote:
... and frankenstein crops and genetic engineering and penicillin

Evidence, Please? Again, the world can be destroyed only once.


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07 Aug 2008, 4:09 pm

I feel like Homer when Marge tells him "This is the worst thing you've ever done!", and he tells her "You've said that so many times it's lost all meaning".


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07 Aug 2008, 4:12 pm

computerlove wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7547118.stm


A particularly singular hole topic

I have read that tiny black holes form frequently in space but then they disappear very quickly, often like when funnel clouds appear in the sky and then dissipate before turning into a tornado.
I am glad that if a black hole in an accelerator ever appeared and swallowed us up we would never know anyway. It would be interesting to experience such a phenomenon, though :) .


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07 Aug 2008, 4:26 pm

Even if you compact a mass dense enough to form an event horizon, the quantity of mass would still be the main issue as to the risk involved.

The end is probably a long way off, and anyway, Christ said that nobody except the Father knows the day or the hour. That is cogent if you are trying to relate this to the Bible somehow, but no flaming or death-treats please.



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07 Aug 2008, 4:33 pm

ok, nothing will happen other than the machine doing what it is meant to do (and that isn't create mini black holes and if it does then god help us all)


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07 Aug 2008, 4:54 pm

DejaQ wrote:
I think science needs to slow down a bit, and focus on helping with the problems that affect the average person.

Amen!


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07 Aug 2008, 5:00 pm

I don't really think they'll find what they are looking for, they may find some interesting new types of matter, and it may solve or disprove some theories, but it won't destroy anything more the a few protons. If they do manage to find a Higgs Boson, it will wink out of existence in a few pico seconds.



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07 Aug 2008, 5:30 pm

oh crap
might not end anything, but theres
a few other things that worry me a little

and i noticed this little headline to the right of the story:

""A vital component in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC)
particle accelerator at Cern has suffered a serious failure."""

not what i want to see :)
i put $20 on that it breaks and not much happens besides what
happens when things break. $10 that time stops and $10 that
we suddenly crash into the moon :lol: