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29 Nov 2008, 5:51 pm

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In this society, we are seeing more and more sociopathic individuals with no empathy whatsoever. We need to give harsh repercussions for their actions in order to keep them in line. Talking it out is nothing but liberal drivel; you would have to be pretty naive to believe they can change through peer mediation. The only thing in the world they understand is brute force. This bully deserves the death penalty for ruining this young man's life. We need to go back to public execution.



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29 Nov 2008, 5:53 pm

What's wrong with prison for life, then?


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29 Nov 2008, 5:57 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
What's wrong with prison for life, then?

It's simply not intense enough to provoke fear in would-be offenders. Do you honestly think that little monster deserves to live?



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29 Nov 2008, 6:02 pm

We shouldn't be the ones to decide who should live or die. What about karma?

Prison for life sounds VERY intense to me.


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29 Nov 2008, 6:02 pm

These comments are awesome!

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The family should get to push the bully down the stairs and paralyze him too, then they would be even-steven.


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Push the bully down the stairs and let God decide the punishment!


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I think on the extreme side of things that must be done to the bully. At a minimum the bully should be pushed down the stairs and beaten the ***** out of until he's permanentaly paralyzed for life. Other and ONLY option, a very extremely slow painful death. There is NO PLACE on this earth where bullying should be allowed. Stupid son of a b*****s deserver to die. They enjoy the fact that they can destroy people's lives who they bully.

Oh well.I can always use my imagination. Hope that bully gets karma back on him full force



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29 Nov 2008, 6:08 pm

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We shouldn't be the ones to decide who should live or die. What about karma?

He deserves to die. The death penalty would be serving him Karma on a hot plate! Once he paralyzed that boy, he forfeited his right to life.

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Prison for life sounds VERY intense to me.

But would it invoke fear in others? Let's face it, sociopaths won't listen to our rationalizations on moral grounds; only fear alone will stop them.



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29 Nov 2008, 6:09 pm

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We shouldn't be the ones to decide who should live or die. What about karma?

He deserves to die. He would be getting his Karma.....

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Prison for life sounds VERY intense to me.

But would it invoke fear in others? Let's face it, sociopaths won't listen to our rationalizations on moral grounds; only fear alone will stop them.


Is fear of death the only form of fear?


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29 Nov 2008, 6:11 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
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We shouldn't be the ones to decide who should live or die. What about karma?

He deserves to die. He would be getting his Karma.....

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Prison for life sounds VERY intense to me.

But would it invoke fear in others? Let's face it, sociopaths won't listen to our rationalizations on moral grounds; only fear alone will stop them.


Is fear of death the only form of fear?


Although it is not the only form of invoking fear, it is one of the most, if not the most, effective methods. Tangible results are what matter to me, all else is inconsequential.



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29 Nov 2008, 6:14 pm

timeisdead wrote:
gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
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We shouldn't be the ones to decide who should live or die. What about karma?

He deserves to die. He would be getting his Karma.....

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Prison for life sounds VERY intense to me.

But would it invoke fear in others? Let's face it, sociopaths won't listen to our rationalizations on moral grounds; only fear alone will stop them.


Is fear of death the only form of fear?


Not the only form but it is one of the most, if not the most effective. Tangible results are what matter to me, all else is inconsequential.


Prison for life is worse than death, cos the expectation of death is worse than death itself.


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29 Nov 2008, 6:17 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
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We shouldn't be the ones to decide who should live or die. What about karma?

He deserves to die. He would be getting his Karma.....

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Prison for life sounds VERY intense to me.

But would it invoke fear in others? Let's face it, sociopaths won't listen to our rationalizations on moral grounds; only fear alone will stop them.


Is fear of death the only form of fear?


Not the only form but it is one of the most, if not the most effective. Tangible results are what matter to me, all else is inconsequential.


Prison for life is worse than death, cos the expectation of death is worse than death itself.


Not if you believe in the afterlife..... But my argument is the fear will keep most of them in line. It's more of a deterrence to future criminals.



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29 Nov 2008, 6:20 pm

It's also playing upon human psychology. Human beings are terrified of the unknown, and as most in prison happen to be "believers", it would be a form of psychological torture waiting for their premature death.



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29 Nov 2008, 6:20 pm

timeisdead wrote:
gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
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We shouldn't be the ones to decide who should live or die. What about karma?

He deserves to die. He would be getting his Karma.....

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Prison for life sounds VERY intense to me.

But would it invoke fear in others? Let's face it, sociopaths won't listen to our rationalizations on moral grounds; only fear alone will stop them.


Is fear of death the only form of fear?


Not the only form but it is one of the most, if not the most effective. Tangible results are what matter to me, all else is inconsequential.


Prison for life is worse than death, cos the expectation of death is worse than death itself.


Not if you believe in the afterlife..... But my argument is the fear will keep most of them in line. It's more of a deterrence to future criminals.


If you believe in an afterlife, death would be preferable to a bad life (ie. prison), so prison would be a worse punishment.


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29 Nov 2008, 6:22 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
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We shouldn't be the ones to decide who should live or die. What about karma?

He deserves to die. He would be getting his Karma.....

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Prison for life sounds VERY intense to me.

But would it invoke fear in others? Let's face it, sociopaths won't listen to our rationalizations on moral grounds; only fear alone will stop them.


Is fear of death the only form of fear?


Not the only form but it is one of the most, if not the most effective. Tangible results are what matter to me, all else is inconsequential.


Prison for life is worse than death, cos the expectation of death is worse than death itself.


Not if you believe in the afterlife..... But my argument is the fear will keep most of them in line. It's more of a deterrence to future criminals.


If you believe in an afterlife, death would be preferable to a bad life (ie. prison), so prison would be a worse punishment.


I meant the belief in hell or eternal suffering....



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29 Nov 2008, 6:24 pm

Oh. Well, in that case, everyone dies at some point, whether executed or not, so the criminal would still go to hell if you believe that. However, I believe they would just be reborn in a low status (like a slug). So all is never lost.


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29 Nov 2008, 6:25 pm

I'm sure certain types of sociopaths do indeed support the death penalty, in fact, I'm sure some of those individuals wouldn't mind taking part in an application of it. :wink:

But I think it's better to tackle the root cause of any of these issues- no matter how much the social norm they may be and resort to such only when we have exhausted all other options, no, this ain't 'liberal drivel', I just prefer prevention over cure. It's not a case about not having enough money to do so. Killing people out of anger is dumb. As dumb and primitive as those who apparently deserve to be killed.

Death penalty or not, I do not believe that any sentient creature deserves to suffer- no matter how much of a twat they may be. I think the death penalty can only be justified as a preventative measure of the very last resort.

And I hate all that bull about lack of funding for any of option other than the death penaltly, if those politicians and various other people in 'high places' would cut down on their 'big bonusus' and petty wars, why I'm sure we could scrape together enough funds to make the world just a slightly better place for everyone regardless of what situation they're in. No sane person can deny that.

Regardless of preventative measures there will always be a few horrible individuals around, but as an agnostic athiest I cannot condone destroying life if there are other avenues to be explored.

It would make me a bad person too, no matter how accepted, because what deserves the death penalty is a subjective issue.

Edit: And public executions? Yuck! I wouldn't want to associate with anybody who enjoys watching public executions. Goodness, who knows what they'd be capable of if they'd been socialised into alternative norms and values. It's scary to think about.



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29 Nov 2008, 6:33 pm

The problem with today's society is that no one is ever held responsible for their own actions. They can always pawn it off on petty excuses like " I have low-self esteem" or "My father called me names". We are that creates justifications for the vilest crimes imaginable. Sorry, but I don't have any empathy for subhuman pieces of garbage like this bully. I reserve empathy for those who deserve it. In my world, every action deserves an equal but opposite reaction.



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