Are there any anarchists on WP

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For me and many of my anarchist friends, we define anarchism by giving according to our means and receiving according to our needs.

We believe that the any use of force, manipulation or coercion is counter productive and so the means and ends can not be separated if there is to be any hope of resolving conflict.

I seems to me that anarchism is a natural way of being (not even political in many ways) and that such a way of being free seems the rallying cry of many people on this site, hence my starting this thread.
To be an anarchist means to be truly and deeply yourself.

Rediscovering your designed purpose by stripping away the false programming of society & embarking upon a path of honest observation & self-discovery.

Below is a link to our little group, we are a small group of religious, atheists, agnostics, and aspies.

I hope you find it interesting.

http://www.londoncatholicworker.org/

Dangerous....................

There are four ways to change any society and all you require are a series of boxes:

The soap box

The ballot box

The jury box

The ammo box

Try the first three before you consider use of the last one.

Ed Almos

What if anarchy fell into the wrong hands? Imagine if Bush was an anarchist.
People say anarchy is not organized, which is hypocrisy. Its just not as organized as most things, but its still definetly there.

Dangerous for you edal but not for me.

I am bored with politics........ what I was interested in was the experience of freedom and weather others here on WP can see a connection with the libertarian quality of their 'difference' and that being compatible with their beliefs.

Much love to you from a beautiful sunny London

Libertarianism only works in theory.

I think that anarchy would actually work if it weren't for all the morons who only want it so they can smoke pot, break into people's houses and kill people without getting into trouble.

I'm sorry if I don't believe Anarchism is "just letting things be". The anarchists I know, they are extremely cult and organized people (not organized as a group, a party or anything like that), that's because doing things without someone designed to accomplish certain functions on society (including leading) demands a huge effort towards self-discipline and social conscience.

Those people who go on painting "A"s on the walls and doing whatever they feel like without thinking about the social/cultural factor, they are not anarchists, they are just a mass organization of stupid people. Those people can't think for themselves and anarchists are mostly against any kind of mass organizations (such as parties, cults, etc.), revolutions, impositions and violence.

There are as many ways of seeing anarchism as there are of seeing autism.

I would say that WP is a very good example of an anarchist collective in action. (sure their are mods, & thats fine)

We in London have a group called mad pride which is a really beautiful group of people many with AS, do check out their site

http://www.zyra.org.uk/madpride.htm

Theory & concepts have very little to do with the experience of anarchism. With re Bush being an anarchist.............ha ha ha ha ha ha...........the world would be a safer place for a start, simply because he is the way he is because he is so unfree)

But really, I am not interested in the politics of freedom, but the experience of it.

http://www.infoshop.org/faq/index.html - interesting site

I would say the 'anarchist' label comes closest to my political stance, but i see myself as more spiritual than political these days.

Im a great believer in the people developing and tuning in to their own sense of inter-connectivity - clearing away all the noise & making decisions based on intuition, rather than coercion through societal programming. If every person with good intentions took moral responsibility for their own actions and refused to engage in activities or hierarchies they sensed to be wrong then the world would transform very quickly.

I think a strong government is the requirement of any free, peaceful society. Strenght does not, however, lie in the use of force, but in the rational management of resources.

Warning: Rant ahead, if disinterested skip to the 11th last line... .

My best bet would be socialism as it is in Sweden and, to a lesser extend, Denmark (darned liberals). Essentially, a socialist welfare state promotes free education, free, professional medical care, and support to various groups with disabilities (even people with Asperger's in some cases) and various people with little means.

The system works very well. The downside is, these enormous benefits require a relatively high tax. And granted, when people have less money on their hands they're less willing to invest. I think a lot of liberals (read: right-wing, or both wings in American politics) are unwilling to see the big picture, though. Nearly everything Danes pay in taxes are repaid to us through the system, and even more is repaid to future generations. Each generation which recieves the best education possible will allow subsequent generations even better education, more resources, and a philosophically superior society. I'm talking green energy, scientific breakthroughs, a generally higher level of education which allows for more scientists, artists, a better democratic process... Not to mention the sense of security that comes from knowing you don't need to pay health insurance or live in the streets if something goes wrong.

I'm sorry if this post resembles propaganda... I just wonder what the use of anarchism is when we already have systems that give according to means and let others recieve according to their needs. That promotes the education required to make people stop manipulating others and shunning those who are different. Where science thrives. Why wrap one's ideas into a package called "anarchy" when firstly, it has negative connotations (such as "disorder"), and secondly, it doesn't seem to make sense for anarchy to be organized. I guess I'm trying to ask the thread starter why you take a sensible mindset and put a strange, irrational label on it that really just seems confusing?

I do agree on one point, though. It appears to me that we with Asperger's syndrome are rational people. I wish everyone were rational.

Although I have no desire to talk politics, I would like to say that my anarchist friends care very little for offering neat definitions of freedom and love but more for the experience of it.

Most anarchists are deeply compassionate and conscientious, far removed from the sterotype the media would love to paint us. In the same way that most autistic people are not crazy weirdos or a danger to others, most anarchists are not bomb throwing madman/women.

Yes we may be naive but that very quality I feel is very akin to the spirit that in my mind resides with many people I know in the Autistic world. We are wild, but wild with love for freedom to love.

In a world where red tape and bureaucracy are taking the care out of caring, there is a real need for people to take risks in order to re-build communities and mend broken hearts.

This is what we do in our community cafe in Hackney and this is what we do in our farm, where we offer hospitality and love to refugees.

Merle nice avatar. I believe they found the guy. He did survive though his identity was protected for obvious reasons.

Anything that is congregational is organised. A meme has its followers. Some ideas have a free flowing dynamic that does not limit others as much. Things that are reactive tend not to be like that.

The people who have contributed so far seem to be better informed than average. For those who associate anarchism only with bomb throwing and stoned punks, here is a -> link <- to an informative two part radio programme on anarchism.

I know some people who could make an anarchist society work. It takes a lot of tolerance, generosity and forgiveness to make it work and avoid a scenario like Somalia, which has absence of government, but has fragmentation instead of anarchism.

Thank you Gromit, the link looks very interesting indeed and i shall look forward to listening to it latter.

Thank you everyone who has contributed so far to this thread, and you are all very welcome to the catholic Worker cafe in Hackney and our farm in Watford, (info on link above)

Much love to you all

I usually try to avoid political discussions in places like this because it feels like a waste of effort.
I'm not sure what label you could put on me, I defy labelling and my opinions are all over the place.

However, I will say this - anarchism, or more precisely, liberty, is a state of mind and is achieveable regardless of what sort of government attempts to rule you. Government cannot give you liberty or take it away, liberty is something that lives in your heart.