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21 Sep 2008, 8:39 am

Do any of the women here have androphobia (fear of men)?



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21 Sep 2008, 9:26 am

Does androphobia stem from assault trauma, I wonder?



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21 Sep 2008, 2:06 pm

How do you know if it's a true phobia rather than just normal fear of men?



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21 Sep 2008, 10:18 pm

I have a hunch. It doesn't seem likely for a female's fear of men to exist w/o cause.



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22 Sep 2008, 4:15 am

Anemone wrote:
How do you know if it's a true phobia rather than just normal fear of men?


I don't think that fear of men *is* normal. Something should happen to cause this. I don't think you come out of the womb, or even later on, just randomly start to fear men.



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22 Sep 2008, 10:07 am

Why not? Males are larger, more aggressive, and don't communicate as well, so as a group they're more intimidating. The average citizen is much more nervous around groups of young adult males than around groups of young adult females - most people see them as more dangerous and unpredictable.

When you get to know someone, then they seem less alarming, safer to be with.

Yes, of course, if you grow up frightened of your father (many people do, or at least used to, and you don't have to be abused in a criminal sense to be afraid of him) you're likely to be more nervous around other males, too. And if you have good relationships with your father and brothers that's going to help. But in general males are more intimidating, no?



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22 Sep 2008, 10:11 am

A female rat who has just given birth will go all ga-ga over baby rats and nurture them right away.

A female rat who has not given birth will grumble when they put baby rats in the cage with her but will get around to taking care of them after grumbling for a while.

A male rat will kill the baby rats the first trial or two, then will shift into grumbling mode and will eventually soften up enough to nurture them. Not sure how many sets of baby rats die or are killed before he gets to that point.

Hormones, I think.



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22 Sep 2008, 10:13 am

Also, you can't keep male rats in a cage together, because they'll fight until there's only one left. Kind of like Highlander, I guess. :P You can keep female rats together, and you can keep them as mixed groups, but not males together.

I know, these are rats, not primates. But still.

Enough rat stories. I think.



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26 Sep 2008, 9:45 pm

Ratty Dread topic

Too bad the baby rats did not have fear of males. :(

I hope the researchers do not keep repeating this experiment. Point's been made. 8O


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07 Jun 2009, 5:15 am

Yes, I have a fear of men, especially of being abused, raped, or used by a man. I don't know why.



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07 Jun 2009, 10:43 am

:scratch: Is that even a phobia? I'm interested why you ask.



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10 Jun 2009, 6:51 pm

I don't know anything about how they did the studies but I know male rats in /most/ cases can be kept together quite happily and that male rats are removed from the prenate females more due to the fact that they can and will mate with the female as soon as she's given birth which makes the female's short live harder than it should be and if I remember right it hurts the babies for their mom to be preggers so soon after they just got born something about milk or something I forgot. Yeah I one of those people that likes rats.


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25 Sep 2009, 6:57 am

I have a fear of men too I can't explain why as I have no idea



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28 Sep 2009, 7:29 am

I don't have a fear of them. I used to like guys a lot (as friends) before I went out with my first bf; that's when I discovered that a lot of the guys I'd thought of as nice and friendly, were saying crap about me behind my back (e.g. sexual jokes). As a result, I don't trust them much anymore, although I do still find them easier to chat to than girls.



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28 Sep 2009, 5:28 pm

I fear most men. Guilty until proven innocent. It's not technically fair, but I'd rather be safe and rude than fair and taken advantage of. :pale:
I hate how they are bigger and stronger than me and can easily overpower me. I hate how women have to have men to protect them from other men. Men can do anything they want and go anywhere they want whenever they want. :x I am also disgusted by how obsessed most men are with sex. A man who proclaims his love of sex as an end in itself rather than in the context of a committed relationship is a huge turnoff for me. It makes me certain that they are just as careless and selfish in other areas of their life and would put themselves first before others they're supposed to care about. Prudence in men is an undervalued trait that most people don't appreciate because they think it isn't masculine. They don't understand true masculinity.

That being said, I have been blessed to meet a handful of amazing men (teachers, relatives, friends) who are good friends and role models and fine human beings. My husband shall be a fine human being. :salut: