Chivalry is stupid

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Well, that would really be my only exception because it's sort of an equal trade. I'm betting the woman in question is wearing something pretty or at least something which isn't practical. This makes him look good. Least he could do is make sure she isn't cold as well...

You know what would be more lovely? For the girlfriend to have thought of wearing (or bringing) her own sweater from home if she knew she was going to be out all day.

It always puzzles me why the situation you've seen is common. A girl wearing a thin piece of clothing walking side-by-side with a boyfriend who's wearing a thick coat he can conveniently take off and put on her, I mean. If they'd gone out at the same time, you would think they'd be dressed for roughly the same weather.

she was wearing a jacket, but it had gotten cold and dark since we all went out. And we were all colder than expected. I still think it's lovely, bah humbug to you

Oh yes... it's so considerate when a guy freezes because the girl is cold.

it is...

It's not. It's merely transferring suffering.

I wear less clothing because I have a high metabolism and a very high tolerance for the cold. NOT because I'm expecting a guy to take off his coat for me.

I will do that for my mom if she's cold and for some reason we're stuck somewhere. Or for anyone else in my family.

considerate = thoughtful of others. How is it not considerate:/. I'd say 'transferring suffering' was a pretty considerate thing to do.

If it's considerate for mechanical girl to do it for her mum/relatives then why isn't it considerate for a man to do it for his gf. I'm sure it'd work the other way too if it was more practical for a man to wear a girl's coat. geez ladies.

I don't know about you, but for some reason, I like the idea of chivalry... however, I do see where you are all coming from...

Of course I know that I am capable and intellegent and can hold my own decently, yet at the same time, there is that white knight who is willing to stand up for me, defend me, and respect me whenever I am in need, which, to be honest, I am definitely not invincible and when I need help, I want a guy to help me. Of course, he also must be able to admit his wrongs when necessary and feel comfortable turning to me for advice,

However, there is a dark side to chivalry when it was at it's height in the Middle Ages where if a knight rescues a woman, he can do pretty much whatever he wants with her, whether it is marriage or sex. Though I could be wrong, but I think that aspect was often kept on the low if I recall, either way, that is disrespectful to woman, especially if he is not listening to her wishes and forcing her into marriage like that, but what can I say?

But I think the intention was to glorify woman and set them on a pedestal, they were like goddesses to knights which I think isn't bad in of itself...

Still... I think chivalry still exists, it just is forgotten, but not dead. However, it is now not enough for a guy to respect women, but also to UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT women. I would rather be understood rather than simply treated nicely because otherwise, what he might see as a nice gesture like sitting by me when I'm alone, even though I intentionally want to be alone because I need peace and quiet would totally backfire and throw me off the edge. The proper thing to do that I would see as respectful is to leave me alone.

I wouldn't want to live in a world completely devoid of chivalry. I don't think it should be expected solely from males, but should go both ways equally. Respect goes both ways. If you want to receive it you have to give it... if you don't want someone being kind to you just speak up; ex: "I have the door, thank you".

That's not chivalry. That's just common courtesy. Chivalry is completely one sided.

In your opinion. The dictionary defines it at several things, but most relevant to this case, is; "courteous behavior, especially towards women." It may be especially towards women, because most were brought up this way, but that doesn't mean it can't go both ways if we decide that it can.

It's not my opinion. That's what it is. One sided. Men being 'courteous to women'.

I know some girls don't like that stuff, so when I'm on a date or whatever situation where I'm dealing with a woman, I just straight up ask them what they want to do.

I'm a nice person, but I don't want the woman to think that she's a helpless creature who is supposed to be totally dependent on me physically and financially because that's not fair to me or her

YAY! Thank you.

Awesome kitten you've got there by the way.

I like it when men do nice things for me, but I generally don't get angry at them if they don't. I try to be "chivalrous", too, except that my brand of "chivalrous" means being courteous to any other being with feelings. Though it's a little sexist to only be courteous to women, I think that the men who do it have good intentions, and that's all that matters.