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20 Aug 2011, 8:20 pm

Just be less feminine, more tomboyish. I don't necessarily TRY to be less attractive; I am just such a tomboy and can't be bothered with all those time consuming things that women do.

Things like: shaving (especially not shaving your legs. that turns a lot of men off), wearing makeup, straightening/styling/letting your hair down everyday in a feminine/attractive style (I just tie it back into a ponytail or simple bun with a scrunchie); wearing clothes that are meant for practicality and not to show off your body. (Loose pants, non-girl style t-shirts, non-dropping necklines, slouchy hoodies, non bright or "stylish" clothes, never wearing skirts or dresses or heels or anything "cute")

Especially if you have large breasts, wearing loose clothing/high necklines can bring attention away from your breasts; which as other people have commented are like eye magnets for men.

When you stop doing these things, you stop sending off a message to men that you are trying to look attractive for them. Also, many men are shallow and will be turned off if they see your hairy legs or ordinary looking outfit. Girls are playing into masochistic fantasies by dressing up and wearing makeup every single day of their lives.

Another thing is I live in the city in a pretty bad area of town. It's basically a survival mechanism out here, as a girl, to dress less provocatively. One time a female friend of mine walked to my house from the bus station. She got followed by a man, bothering her with sexually inappropriate comments, all 5 blocks to my house. As well as getting cat called the whole way here. She was very distressed, scared, and uncomfortable when she got to my house and never came over again. Guess what she was wearing? A girly, matching outfit, above-knee length skirt, heels, done-up hair, and makeup. (She is a girly girl who dresses like this everyday)



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20 Aug 2011, 8:42 pm

bad breath and body order, hairy legs, act old, loose your femininity in every way you can (except for maybe your hair), and wear clothes that don't drape you closely so you can hide your silhouette.

you will be a turn-off to a larger portion of men but not all unfortunately.


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20 Aug 2011, 8:44 pm

Ani wrote:
Another thing is I live in the city in a pretty bad area of town. It's basically a survival mechanism out here, as a girl, to dress less provocatively. One time a female friend of mine walked to my house from the bus station. She got followed by a man, bothering her with sexually inappropriate comments, all 5 blocks to my house. As well as getting cat called the whole way here. She was very distressed, scared, and uncomfortable when she got to my house and never came over again. Guess what she was wearing? A girly, matching outfit, above-knee length skirt, heels, done-up hair, and makeup. (She is a girly girl who dresses like this everyday)


I live in a bad part of my city, as well. In two days, I had a pack of teenaged boys on bikes on my walk scream something at me about doing one of them, and the next night I didn't leave til later and had someone call at me out of the darkness "Lookin' good, girl!"

Was scared. :(


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20 Aug 2011, 10:35 pm

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Another thing is I live in the city in a pretty bad area of town. It's basically a survival mechanism out here, as a girl, to dress less provocatively. One time a female friend of mine walked to my house from the bus station. She got followed by a man, bothering her with sexually inappropriate comments, all 5 blocks to my house. As well as getting cat called the whole way here. She was very distressed, scared, and uncomfortable when she got to my house and never came over again. Guess what she was wearing? A girly, matching outfit, above-knee length skirt, heels, done-up hair, and makeup. (She is a girly girl who dresses like this everyday)


I live in a bad part of my city, as well. In two days, I had a pack of teenaged boys on bikes on my walk scream something at me about doing one of them, and the next night I didn't leave til later and had someone call at me out of the darkness "Lookin' good, girl!"

Was scared. :(


creepy! sounds like you need a pit bull.
When I take my pit bull for a walk...it is a great deterant for guys like that and pretty much everyone else too.
if you are somwhere you cant take a dog, I read in reader's digest....a rapist's confession that they avoid women walking with a big stick or cane....cause they generally look for easy prey, not someone who is going to beat the crap out of them with a cane. Titanum canes work well and are very hard to break.

be careful, look alert, and dont go out after dark alone in a bad neighborhood...if you must go with a guy or a group.

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21 Aug 2011, 2:15 am

What may help in such situations is feeling confident in your ability to defend.
A good dog will go a long way in this. You can also attend martial arts classes and learn a few tricks.

Typically those packs consist of only a few agressive types and the others are followers who become passive as soon as they personally feel threatened.
Ignore all verbal assaults and approach them. Always move forward. Showing no fear gives you a moment to do something unexpected to a key person of the group.

Ofcourse only do this if you know there is no sensible and safe way out.



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21 Aug 2011, 3:01 pm

Oh, I'm not afraid where I am. In a large part because I took martial arts for many years and am always "on guard" so to speak. I know how to walk around confidently and exude the air of "I know what I'm doing, where I'm going, etc."

Also I carry a knife and I have my heavy u-lock on hand when biking late at night.

But the main thing I was trying to bring up was that you can avoid a LOT of uncomfortable cat-calling and male attention in these sorts of areas if you dress less feminine. I usually wear slouchy pants or men's board shorts and a big loose hoodie in my neighbourhood when I walk around. You can barely tell I'm a girl from certain angles or from a distance.

The few times I leave the house dressed up for some occasion (in attractive, feminine clothing) the amount of cat-calling and such goes WAY up. Like, can't walk half a block without being cat called at least once. Very uncomfortable.



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21 Aug 2011, 3:34 pm

I've been wanting to get a dog for company, but have to wait until I have a job-
you have to feed them, and take them to the vet, apparently. :D
My point was that I was in sweats and a huge bleach stained t-shirt, with my hair in a bun, and all this still happened.
I have it on good authority I'm getting a Glock for my birthday next year.


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21 Aug 2011, 6:13 pm

Don't get their jokes. I haven't encountered a man yet who didn't hit on me by being "funny". Take these jokes literally, and demand detailed explanations in a very cold, cerebral manner. They will break into a sweat and run away from you.

You must look them directly in the eyes (or thereabouts) otherwise the brutish, predatory ones will think you are passive and weak and won't give up.



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23 Aug 2011, 12:39 am

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have you considered a monobrow? :wink:


I think they are sooo sexy. (On girls. Not necessarily guys.)


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23 Aug 2011, 4:35 am

Ani wrote:
Just be less feminine, more tomboyish. I don't necessarily TRY to be less attractive; I am just such a tomboy and can't be bothered with all those time consuming things that women do.

Things like: shaving (especially not shaving your legs. that turns a lot of men off), wearing makeup, straightening/styling/letting your hair down everyday in a feminine/attractive style (I just tie it back into a ponytail or simple bun with a scrunchie); wearing clothes that are meant for practicality and not to show off your body. (Loose pants, non-girl style t-shirts, non-dropping necklines, slouchy hoodies, non bright or "stylish" clothes, never wearing skirts or dresses or heels or anything "cute")

Especially if you have large breasts, wearing loose clothing/high necklines can bring attention away from your breasts; which as other people have commented are like eye magnets for men.

When you stop doing these things, you stop sending off a message to men that you are trying to look attractive for them. Also, many men are shallow and will be turned off if they see your hairy legs or ordinary looking outfit. Girls are playing into masochistic fantasies by dressing up and wearing makeup every single day of their lives.

Another thing is I live in the city in a pretty bad area of town. It's basically a survival mechanism out here, as a girl, to dress less provocatively. One time a female friend of mine walked to my house from the bus station. She got followed by a man, bothering her with sexually inappropriate comments, all 5 blocks to my house. As well as getting cat called the whole way here. She was very distressed, scared, and uncomfortable when she got to my house and never came over again. Guess what she was wearing? A girly, matching outfit, above-knee length skirt, heels, done-up hair, and makeup. (She is a girly girl who dresses like this everyday)


I've rarely found dressing androgynously worked. Which makes me think the behaviour is partly about anger/wanting to put a girl or woman in their place...


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25 Aug 2011, 2:58 am

Well, I'd have to observe your behavior and body language before I could offer you any suggestions. For now try scratching your privates in public and sniffing your underarms as much as possible, and sticking your finger up your nose. That might do the trick.

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25 Aug 2011, 5:43 pm

Well hello ladies...how you all doin'? ;)

OP, I say this with sincerity...maybe this is your problem and not that of others. Sorry if I missed an important point that would cause me to rethink this statement, but I am just a man and was too busy looking for cleavage to stare at to read much of the female yammering in here...

You see, flirting and approaching those whom you believe to be sexually attractive in the hope of securing sexual relations is common behaviour....do you think it would be possible to shift your perception on this to see male advances as being a compliment and as expected you can simply turn them down? Either that or you could see how many piercings you can fit on your face which tends to limit ones sexual opportunities...

Oh, to be so popular with those dirty dirty dogs...


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25 Aug 2011, 6:40 pm

The crickets are deafening...



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The crickets are deafening...


Really MV? Then I shouldn't suggest that the OP vaguely scratch at her nether regions and mutter something about "damn love blisters" every time a "random idiot" approaches her.

I was not attempting to elicit belly-laughs from the participants. I was attempting to pad my view with yes, dick-head humour so that I didn't come off soundly overly blunt with something like;

Yes OP, people that you would prefer didn't approach you in the hope of sparking romantic/lustful interest will do so much more often than those you would like to do so. If you would prefer to be the only one doing the approaching then that is unreasonal and there is little you can do to change it. If you would prefer to never be approached then it won't happen while you are at an age that men view you as a potential fertile mate. I understand that you find "random idiots"/people you don't find attractive approaching you undesirable, but by making yourself undesirable to everybody you will miss the opportunity to be approached by somebody you like. Please consider learning to say "I'm sorry, I'm not interested" to those that you are not interested in.

I don't mind sounding like a dick sometimes, even if I get called out on it, because I believe it's preferable to sounding like a prick.


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26 Aug 2011, 4:41 am

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Really MV? Then I shouldn't suggest that the OP vaguely scratch at her nether regions and mutter something about "damn love blisters" every time a "random idiot" approaches her.

I was not attempting to elicit belly-laughs from the participants. I was attempting to pad my view with yes, dick-head humour so that I didn't come off soundly overly blunt with something like;

Yes OP, people that you would prefer didn't approach you in the hope of sparking romantic/lustful interest will do so much more often than those you would like to do so. If you would prefer to be the only one doing the approaching then that is unreasonal and there is little you can do to change it. If you would prefer to never be approached then it won't happen while you are at an age that men view you as a potential fertile mate. I understand that you find "random idiots"/people you don't find attractive approaching you undesirable, but by making yourself undesirable to everybody you will miss the opportunity to be approached by somebody you like. Please consider learning to say "I'm sorry, I'm not interested" to those that you are not interested in.

I don't mind sounding like a dick sometimes, even if I get called out on it, because I believe it's preferable to sounding like a prick.


Help yourself. The space is free. I'm not exactly sure what the difference between "sounding like a dick" and "sounding like a prick" is, but maybe, just maybe, you should limit yourself to forums where there aren't women talking about their specific women-oriented problems, in a space set aside for just that. Just a suggestion. And yes, I will continue to call out idiocy where I see it.

Step outside yourself for one teensy moment and realize that not everyone wants to be part of the mating game, 24/7. Not every woman sees herself only as a reflection in how f***able she is to some man's eyes. Doesn't compute? Give it some more time.



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26 Aug 2011, 11:48 am

S3VMTGVUYUg wrote:
Well hello ladies...how you all doin'? ;)

OP, I say this with sincerity...maybe this is your problem and not that of others. Sorry if I missed an important point that would cause me to rethink this statement, but I am just a man and was too busy looking for cleavage to stare at to read much of the female yammering in here...

You see, flirting and approaching those whom you believe to be sexually attractive in the hope of securing sexual relations is common behaviour....do you think it would be possible to shift your perception on this to see male advances as being a compliment and as expected you can simply turn them down? Either that or you could see how many piercings you can fit on your face which tends to limit ones sexual opportunities...

Oh, to be so popular with those dirty dirty dogs...


Thanks for the serious, well thought post, douchebag.

It's not a compliment, sorry. I'm tired of being seen as fair game because I have a vagina.

And piercings? I have a few of those. Doesn't work that well. Hell where I am not even striking an aggressive pose and making a deliberate show of picking your nose works that well. They're just too mindless to get that no means no or that their behaviour is actually unwanted.

I'm tired of living in that world. I'm tired of a world where you are seen as fair sexual game at all times and not even flipping out and threatening serious physical harm is enough to be left alone. I'm a human being not a sexual vending machine.


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