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12 Aug 2011, 6:13 pm

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I don't think I'll ever change my mind. I know my limitations and I'm only capable of raising my pets. The reason NT women pressure us into having children and getting married is because if you don't do any of those things, then you are considered selfish or weird to them. :roll:

Jillian Michaels wants to adopt children instead of getting pregnant because she has some female health issues that she feels make it impossible for her to conceive. And Ann Coulter calls her a narcissist for doing that...what a b***h!! :x


Ann Coulter will say anything to get attention. At this point, she's a satire of herself.

Most childfree people I have come into contact with (and all the childfree people I know in real life) have very serious and well thought out reasons for not wanting to have any children. The reasons cover the spectrum but each reason is personal, real, and intelligently decided. There was nothing emotive or irrational, nothing even remotely selfish. Often times they aren't just thinking about themselves, but about the unborn child who, if born, would be born with their DNA and raised under their care. That's pretty serious and considerate.



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12 Aug 2011, 6:37 pm

wefunction wrote:
peaceloveerin wrote:
I don't think I'll ever change my mind. I know my limitations and I'm only capable of raising my pets. The reason NT women pressure us into having children and getting married is because if you don't do any of those things, then you are considered selfish or weird to them. :roll:

Jillian Michaels wants to adopt children instead of getting pregnant because she has some female health issues that she feels make it impossible for her to conceive. And Ann Coulter calls her a narcissist for doing that...what a b***h!! :x


Ann Coulter will say anything to get attention. At this point, she's a satire of herself.

Most childfree people I have come into contact with (and all the childfree people I know in real life) have very serious and well thought out reasons for not wanting to have any children. The reasons cover the spectrum but each reason is personal, real, and intelligently decided. There was nothing emotive or irrational, nothing even remotely selfish. Often times they aren't just thinking about themselves, but about the unborn child who, if born, would be born with their DNA and raised under their care. That's pretty serious and considerate.

Well, in Ann Coulter's screwed up mind, I must be a narcissist for not even wanting children at all!! :x



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14 Aug 2011, 8:24 pm

I also hate it when women talk about marriage and pregnancy, too, especially right in front of me! Its like I want to walk off into my own corner and not hear it! :roll:



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24 Oct 2016, 1:52 am

Hey guys,

you may have noticed that I started a new tocophobia thread. I've been reading through this old one and was wondering if any of the tocophobes mentioned in this thread (you know who you are) would be interested in answering some questions for my blog/book. I would greatly appreciate your help :)

thanks, Briony.



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28 Dec 2016, 4:13 am

You have a right not to have kids, but your husband has a right to have them. You should have made it clear to him before getting married that you were not going to have kids, so that he could have easily backed out of the relationship, in order find someone who shares his interest in having a family. If you knew before getting married that he wanted kids, you should not have married him. It's not fair to him. Now you really need to sit down with him to make clear that you are not going to haves, and if he really wants them, you need to let him go.

No one is arguing with your right to not have kids, but you and most of those who responded to your post haven't grasped that your husband also has rights, in this case to have kids. In this case, if he is dead set on having them, then it will mean a divorce because the two of you are not a match.

I fully get that you don't want the responsibility and problems that come with having kids. When I was 8 years old I decided to never marry or have kids. It's now almost 5 decades later, and I never changed my mind, in spite of relatives and other people constantly asking me when I was younger, "Do you have a boyfriend?" or "When are you getting married?" and a number of similar questions. When I told them I wasn't ever going to marry or have kids, they always insisted that I would change my mind. Most people can't stand when you don't follow the herd pattern, and will constantly try to herd you into the "correct" path. It's true that some people do change their minds, and do marry and have kids eventually, but I am sure at least a few of them were bullied into it by their relatives.

Children deserve to have parents who want them. It is no favor to kids to be born and raised by parents who don't want them.

Now go and clear the air with your husband, and be prepared for him to ask for a divorce. You really should have made all this clear before the wedding. Now you have a mess to deal with. :roll:


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