Lesbian Aspies...

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I wanted to reply to other topic but it was locked.

Anyway, not trying to start anything but it isn't that far-fecthed, IMO.

Lesbians and autistic women have a low 2D/4D ratio, which is supposed to be indicative of a "masuclinized" brain.

It does appear that there are some shared traits, but I wouldn't say that all women with Asperger's aren't "girly" or that most lesbians are masculine.

Interesting to see the correlation, IMO.

Sure, and the correlation between schizoid and Aspergers and sociopaths isn't too far off either. Any diagnosis, no matter what it is, will have something close to that. Think of protons and the periodic table of the elements, and you get the idea.

having a masculinized brain doesn't necessaraly means you're a lesbian. It probably depends on what part of the brain is masculinized. Sexuality and the thing that makes you think ''like a man'' are controlled by different parts of the brain.
The finger ratio thing i find very interesting, i've got it but only on one hand. Maybe it means that only half my brain is masculinized? That could explained my androgynous personality.

It really only happens on the right hand for most women but I have it on both and it's more pronounced on the left, which is weird.

Anyway, I have a somewhat androgynous personality, too, I suppose.

Therer are also straight women with the ratio, fwiw. It's not that common but they would probably also share traits with lesbians and female autistics.

I really don't feel like I think like a man, at all. I think most of brain is not masculinized, but certainly not feminized, either.

Explain finger ratio to me. I'm pretty sure my index fingers are both longer than my wedding finger which I believe is normal for females. By odd finger ratio do you mean female aspies often have finger ratios that are common with males?

I think alternative sexualities are more common in the autistic population but I do not think that specifically lesbianism is especially common in female aspies.

On the The Empathizing Quotient and Systemizing Quotient I have scored as "Extreme Systemizer" in my balance between systemizing and empathizing brain function.
According to gendered brain theories, this would define me as "extreme male brained".
0% of the control group women scored as Extreme Systemizing.
My scores were much more disparate than any of the male control group, either. (6 empathizing, 104 systemizing).

I have taken many other gendered brain theory tests and have consistently scored more "male" than the male control groups. I have scored more "male" than male Asperger's groups.

I am a female Aspie who largely prefers men. The determination of sexuality is one of those things we just ain't got figured out yet!

It's not like being a lesbian, is the ONLY that makes one a lesbain, is what I was tryiing to say, as bizarre as that sounds. Many lesbians actually THINK differently than *most* straight women do and may share personality traits with other groups of women who have supposedly "masculinized" brains.

There are probably a lot of lesbians who may or not be on the spectrum who think the way you do, or straight women who may or may not be on the austistic spectrum but have a brain that is masculinized in some way.

*simalarities*, is what I meant. Not that being an autistic women=having a masculinized brain=being gay.

I'm lesbian. I scored as extreme systemizer on the EQ/SQ quiz. My index fingers are longer than my ring fingers.

Damn, I can't get anything right.

Well, none of the research is set in stone and it's all relatively new.

Longer iondex fingers are supposed to indicate a a highly feminized brain and a predisposition to schizophrenia, which is genetically linked to and simlar to autism in some ways so I think they'll be doing a a lot more research along those lines.

That's interesting how something that affects the brain would also affect finger length like that.

The second line was meant to be a joke.

*looks at long index fingers*

I did not spend two hours this morning researching schizophrenia after reading that.

It was more like an hour and a half. I know I don't have it, but it was hard to resist.

I once heard voices after smoking a popular herb, and spent the whole of the next day researching it.

...and some of my spare time ever since!

I heard voices once... well, it was a lot more intense than just voices. But a) there were drugs involved and b) multiple days without sleep. It never happened again, thank god.

I was intellectually aware they weren't real, but emotionally terrified they'd never go away.

What does it mean if they are the same length?

I think my rings fingers are a bit longer than my index fingers, but not by much.

HAHA, lol. I've researched it at length(lol!), too.

My father is schizophrenic. There is a genetic overlap with so many of the major mental disorders and someone with AS or even just some autistic traits can have similar brain wiring without having schizophrenia. I see some my behaviors reflecting my dad's a lot but I'm much more confident than I used to be that I'm not going to lose my mind.

The long index finger isn't too concerning for women. It is found in most schizophrenic patients but also in women who are considered ot have more *feminized* brains, and have no disorders. It is very rare in men and most men with the ratio are either schizophrenic or homosexual, but, again...it's all fairly new research. They don't know much yet.