How do you avoid being sexually attractive?

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02 Jun 2015, 8:24 am

So do you women want all men to be unattracted to you? I assume that if you're a heterosexual woman, then you would want some man to be attracted to you at some point? So do you only want men that you are attracted to to be attracted to you? I don't see how you can make yourself unattractive to one man without making all/most men unattracted to you. The only way this makes sense to me is if you already have a man that you are committed to and you are no longer looking, or if you are a lesbian or asexual and you were never looking to begin with. From reading a lot of the replies it looks like that is often the case.

Personally my favorite way to be rejected is for the woman to say something like, "Thank you for showing interest in me, but I'm not interested in you." I think this is a very respectful way to reject someone and I do not even feel bad when I get rejected this way. You don't have to say the first clause in that sentence, but some sort of explicit rejection is necessary. The first time I asked a girl out, she told me that she was busy, so I thought it seemed logical to ask her again some time later when she might not be busy. I did that for 3 months before I eventually realized that she just didn't want to see me. I think that type of behavior is very disrespectful (not to mention obviously uneffective if it didn't work after 3 months) and you should not expect me to have a positive reaction if you are rejecting me in a disrespectful manner. Even if it's not said in a respectful tone of voice, clearly expressing a lack of interest is more respectful than ignoring an approach or playing some sort of mind game.

Honestly trying not to dress up sexy would make me more likely to approach you. In my experience most women are really mean, so doing anything different from most women is going to make me interested in you (at least initially). Also I think most women are really shallow, so not doing (literally) shallow things to your body like wearing makeup and heels is going to make me think that maybe there is something else about you worth finding out about.

I am going to explain to you why a lot of men keep chasing women even when they don't want to be chased. I tried some PUA a few years ago, and it increased the attention I got from women enormously. There are a lot of details to what they said which you probably don't want to hear about, but basically the general gist was to pretend to be a sex-crazed as*hole. When most women say that they want a man to care about her feelings, and to like her as a person rather than a sex object, it is a s**t test. Honestly I would not be able to tell the difference between a woman who wanted to be objectified and one who didn't, because they would both act the same because the woman who wanted to be objectified would throw a lot of s**t tests at me by pretending not to want to be objectified. I know from personal experience that most women like it when men come after them in a strongly sexual way (at least after they have done a little flirting first), but maybe you women haven't had these experiences. So I will point out that romance novels/movies like 50 shades of gray are extremely popular among women. If most women didn't like being objectified, then they would not read/watch these things. Also, most men want to get laid, so most of them are doing things that they think will get them laid. If there are a lot of men chasing you, then it probably means that they think that will work, and it is likely that they think it will work because it worked for them before.

I am not actually visually aroused. I've never wanted to bang a woman just because she was pretty. I think porn is boring. I have only ever been comfortable with the idea of touching a woman if I had an emotional connection first. Also I'm smart (I got a physics degree) and I'm fit (I can do 100 pushups). So I am what women say they want. But I'm not what they want. With only 1 happy exception, the PUA stuff is the only thing that has ever gotten me attention from women. But I don't feel any arousal from a purely sexual interaction (which is what the PUA stuff taught), so I don't like to use the PUA stuff anymore. So I don't really see much point in interacting with women at all. I have been trying to avoid them for a few years. Unfortunately most women are attracted to men who aren't attracted to them, so sometimes women will flirt with me if they notice that I'm not noticing them. To get these women to go away, I pretend to show polite interest in them (how I would try to get to know a woman better if I were ignorant of how women actually worked), and that works pretty well. So acting like myself is the most effective woman-repellent I've ever found. It is very hurtful to me and it reinforces my belief that I should avoid women every time it works.

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Of course, this wouldn't work for girls, but anytime I'm relaxed and just being myself, people flock to me.


I'm monstrously jealous. Acting like myself is the technique I use to get women to go away.

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Once I was sitting at a bus stop and this elderly man came over and started making small talk. I was polite, but not very friendly. Then he said that he was looking for a wife. WTF! I responded that I was not looking for a husband. He got upset and walked away in a huff. That was very funny. :twisted:



This is priceless. Great come back!


I don't see how that's a come back. To me that seems like the only logical response to what he said.

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After I realized just how many women are ignored and disrespected because they don't meet supposed beauty standards, I stopped complaining about beauty privilege like it was some horrible burden. It's just another shade of sexism and getting treated like the favorite isn't exactly the rotten end of that stick.


It is not sexism for men to be attracted to you and to treat you nicely because of it. A lot of women seem to have this opinion and I find it very hurtful. How am I ever supposed to show feelings for a woman if I am despised for doing so?

Basically what you've said is this:
Ignore a woman -- I'm sexist
Disrespect a woman -- I'm sexist
Show kindness to a woman -- I'm sexist

What is there that a man can do that will convince you that he's not sexist? Honestly I've had to deal with so many women who think that everything I do is sexist, that I am sexist because of it. I have avoided women mostly for the past couple years largely because of this. If women tell men often enough that they are sexist, then they will believe it. And if feminists tell men often enough that women are incompetent and not responsible adults (a lot of feminists seem to think that meritocracy is inherently sexist and therefore we need gender quotas, and they also have a lot of double standards which negates female agency, such as 2 drunken people having consensual sex = female victim + male rapist) then they will believe that too. It makes me very sad because otherwise I thought you seemed like a nice person. I think being respectful to people you aren't attracted to is a good trait. But secretly thinking that a man is sexist for doing nice things for you is not.




I'm guess the reason I replied to this thread is that I thought it was very interesting that some women didn't want men to be attracted to them. My understanding is that most social interactions (especially sex) are power plays. Women use sex to get power, and men use power to get sex. That's why society is patriarchal by default. (most) Women have no reason to talk to a man if he can't do things for them that they can't do themselves, so society just doesn't work with genuine equality. So generally most women are flattered by any attention they get from men at all, because it means they can manipulate the man's sex drive in order to get things from him. So it is very interesting to me that there are women who don't want male attention. I especially like the women who do this because they already have a partner that they are committed to. It shows a level of honor and conscientiousness which is unusual in women. But I also think that several of the women on this thread are just too ignorant to realize that being attractive to some men means being attractive to all men (even the ones that they don't like), and don't realize that it's not possible for a man to know whether a woman might like him until he approaches her.

I'm moving abroad in a couple weeks, mostly just to get away from western (especially US) women. I've been abroad before, and it is nice to be treated with kindness and respect by the other gender. It is pleasant to me for the female half of the population not to assume that I'm a murdering rapist or something just because I'm a man. I don't know if I'll ever be able to find a suitable partner (not being visually aroused seems to be a serious issue), but foreigners aren't as crazy as Americans, especially the women, and I think it's worth moving abroad just for that reason. A lot of the women on this forum actually seem nice, apart from being brainwashed by feminism.



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02 Jun 2015, 9:04 am

I believe many men like women as people, as well as liking them for being women.



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02 Jun 2015, 9:20 am

Exactly, KK! I've just read a few comments from the last page and found some it quite amusing. For instance, not wearing makeup would work in reverse for me, since I prefer the natural look. The beauty of who a woman is, inside and out, will always shine through for me regardless of what she is wearing.


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06 Jun 2015, 9:30 am

As already said, I think it’d be pretty hard for you to get rid of any kind of sexual attractiveness.

First off, you’d have to discard your breasts.

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Not only would that solve the problem of men liking the sight of your chest, but it’d also make being hugged by you much less physically pleasant.

Unfortunately, in real life, even a woman in such a sad and grave state as shown in the picture would have distinctly feminine hands, and many would still love to get intimate enough with you to kiss them, play with them and to get you to caress them. You’d have to fix that somehow.

Your feet are a similar liability. Even if you were to cut off both your hands and feet, your arms and, especially, your legs would remain quite sexually appealing. Worse yet, someone might want to try and comfort you in your misery, and, for a man starved of female company, that would probably involve hugging you and kissing and caressing your still feminine waist, back, neck and cheeks. It’d be rather hard to discard all of those, too.

You’d probably want to destroy somehow the natural softness and appeal of your feminine skin, perhaps by means of some nasty chemicals. Then, the shape and size of your nose, mouth, ears and eyes would probably still harbor some female charm, requiring even more gruesome measures to kill it. And you’d have to do something about the feminine shape of your skeleton, especially about your shoulders, waist and hips.


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07 Jun 2015, 8:48 am

Nereid wrote:
Man-Deterrent Checklist:

-loose, baggy clothing.
-unapproachable demeanor
-clumsy, awkward movements
-when a guy tries talking to you, look at him like you dont get it. Great for you too because the guy doesnt realize that you may really not get it!
-avoid areas of objectifying men, i.e. construction zones, bars, etc
-unsexy walk. I walk briskly with long steps, swinging my arms forcifully back and forth. I always look like I'm walking with a mission
-avoid eye contact (easy for us!)

This is an excellent list.

Walking like you have a mission has been the most effective from what I have seen.
Gaining weight would also be a deterrent to a large number of men.
Frowning strongly works often as well.

You can also build up a reputation among those that DO approach you, by rebuffing them in a certain way. Sign Language seems to generate the best results. Look at the person attempting to start a conversation and sign at them. Relatively harmless and does not generate a "bad" reputation. You only need to know a few letters or words, unless they know sign language as well.



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08 Jun 2015, 5:21 pm

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Let's just say I'm sick of random idiots being drawn to me because I have breasts and I'm average looking as opposed to revolting. I don't feel like typing out details...

So, what are some ways to deflect attraction?

I'd cut off my hair, but I like it too much. Not willing to go that far.

Maybe I should curse more? :D :D

Shoot my mouth off about my physical strength? I'm fairly sure that your average guy, at least, doesn't want a girl who can deadlift more than he can.

Tell dead baby jokes? Generally act as morbid as possible(Okay, so I'm already a fairly morbid person, but I could make a special effort)? :D :D

Semi-humor aside, does anyone know of some ways I could alter my behaviour to send non-sexual signals??


If somebody finds you attractive, they can't really help it. If you don't want people to find you attractive, you could be a rude, sociopathic jerk who treats people badly. You could also not shower.

But the easiest solution, I find, is simply saying "no thank you". However, if they are jerks about it, just say "f**k off". If all else fails, say you're a lesbian.



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12 Jun 2015, 12:24 am

Stop bathing, brushing your teeth, or washing your hair. Also don't change underwear. It will work.


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13 Jun 2015, 6:44 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
Stop bathing, brushing your teeth, or washing your hair. Also don't change underwear. It will work.


Unless the men you're trying to ward off are even filthier---in that case, they probably won't care, if they notice at all :twisted:


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20 Jun 2015, 6:23 am

Spiderpig wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
Stop bathing, brushing your teeth, or washing your hair. Also don't change underwear. It will work.


Unless the men you're trying to ward off are even filthier---in that case, they probably won't care, if they notice at all :twisted:



So who the hell is going to go to all that trouble to keep bums from thinking you look hot? So what? Let them think it. They can't have it, and that's that. Don't f**k yourself up just to keep some dude from thinking something. There is ALWAYS a guy who will think SOMETHING.


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20 Jun 2015, 6:49 am

Well, I think there's no point in avoiding being hot in the first place, but that's what this thread is about.


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20 Jun 2015, 9:25 am

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I hate attracting attention, dislike people on the street talking to me and trying to pick me up. I have found that being overly weird and somewhat rude can help more than altering your looks to seem less attractive. I used to want to look worse, but noticed that didn't work, you would just attract different type of men.

But if someone thinks you are intimidating or odd, they will not bother you as much, and are less likely to approach you, especially in public spaces like streets, supermarket, etc.
And when they do its in a less direct, and annoying way. Just dress oddly, wear lots of black, and look like you are slightly crazy, and you will keep the guys away. Intimidation is key. People don't like getting their egos bruised, so if you look like you might, they will probably stay away. And no eye contact ever, that is apparently an invitation to chit chat.


Is that why people don't approach me much? I tend to wear bright or dark clothes



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20 Jun 2015, 9:54 am

There's really nothing I can do avoid attracting female attention because I was blessed with an Adonis-like appearance. I just have to learn to live with it.


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24 Jun 2015, 5:56 pm

I guess some topics have a continuing interest. The OP started this thread in Jul 2011, then somehow it more recently came to life again although the OP according to the profile hasn't been on WP since Jan 2014.

The main question seems to be how to avoid interest from immature males. Well since male immaturity doesn't stop at a certain age, this is an issue for women of all ages.



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27 Jun 2015, 6:51 am

chapstan wrote:
I guess some topics have a continuing interest. The OP started this thread in Jul 2011, then somehow it more recently came to life again although the OP according to the profile hasn't been on WP since Jan 2014.



uhh, the new site layout has a "similar topics" feature, which encourages the bumping of ancient-threads with similar titles for some strange reason.



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27 Jun 2015, 12:43 pm

1- Don't take care of your appearance
2- Wear clothes or anything which would hide the sexually attractive parts of you
3- Have a bad posture, but that's unhealthy
4- Try making your skin look ugly or unhealthy



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28 Jun 2015, 3:01 pm

Carry a gun or a tazer then they wont approach especially if you point it at them, they will be afraid of you!


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