How do you feel about Feminism?

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Indeed.....tolerance goes a long way.

Even if you mean well Kraftie, you don't know how it feels, and voicing your opinion is just unrespectful and hurtful. Of course help is needed, rape victims/survivors don't need you telling them that, believe me.

"Try to move forward with your life," and "Do your best to get the help you need to heal so that the trauma no longer rules every moment of your life." Really? They are doing their best, and I respect that.

This is a very sensitive subject, and best thing to do is just be respectful and supportive.

I never said people weren't doing their best!

I'm not a "get over it!" type person.

I understand "being a victim" pretty well.....because I've been a victim myself.

I don't mean to minimalize the suffering of others; how can I really know----unless I know the person in real life?

Yeah...I take what Robin Williams says to heart---more than you might think.

I think you have made your own opinion quite clearly.
You seem to have missed the actual meaning of Krafties words.

No, I understand it pretty clearly. Thank you for your input though.

I know I'm not some god----or even some therapist. I'm just some guy, really. Just like the majority of people are "some guy" or "some woman."

What do you think my words mean?

I, myself, am in accord with what Serpentine said. And I should have expressed myself the way Serpentine expressed herself.

By the way: somebody thought that my declaration "Feminism is cool" was too informal.

It's cool. But it's also a great social movement which has accomplished much. That's how "I feel about Feminism."

Having been sexually assaulted himself I think he has a pretty good idea of what it's like. People seem to keep missing that point, which makes all the difference between clueless patronizing and "been there done that, and here's what gets me through it."

Also FWIW some survivors don't get help. Some of us keep it a "shameful" secret for years before they even tell a single soul because they blame themselves for it. Some never tell anyone.

I completely agree with you that those who haven't had similar experiences should think twice (or thrice) about offering advice to rape and assault survivors, however well-intentioned.

Being molested is horrible, but penetration, that is something completely different, believe me. Kraftie gave advice, he gave his opinion, and he shouldn't have. It is unrespectful and hurtful, as the reaction of Twilight Princess clearly showed. I hope she is doing okay.

When people have PTSD from being raped, wake up sweating in the middle of the night on a daily basis from flashback nightmares, panicking frantically, fighting their demons on a daily basis, and some guy tells them to search for help and seek to move forward in life, this is unrespectful and hurtful. You don't know what they go through, you should respect them and support them. Otherwise, stay silent.

I know a guy who got raped by his stepfather on a daily basis as a little boy. Nobody believed him. Everybody said he was imagining it all. This monster is still to this day living happily because he can't prove a thing. He, in comparison, lives with severe PTSD and other severe mental problems, hating himself passionately, disgusted by himself. This monster took his dignity, his pride, everything from him, and there is nothing he can do about it.

Tell him he needs to go seek help, needs to seek to move forward. He will knock your teeth out, I guarantee you that.

Incredibly ignorant advice in this situation.

I am done with this conversation, have made my point clear. I stand behind rape victims and survivors and would never give them advice or tell them to seek to move forward. I respect them too much for that. It breaks my heart that we live in a world where people can do this to other people. My ex was a rape victim and by the gods, if I told you guys what I have seen and experienced... Never, EVER, can anyone move forward from that. I wear that on my back as an open wound, not a scar.

Feminism is a good topic to talk about.