How do you feel about Feminism?

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in a wider sense, i'm very positive about feminism but i have a lot of criticism on it.

i used to be part of a feminist collective, but when i moved to this city, i tried to take part the university group but i didn't like the girls. i feel there is a lot of misinformation, superficiality and ego disputes.

in brazil, it begin to be quite popular, at the same time it was deeply dumbed down. it a bit annoys me because i see a lot of people using it solely as personal benefit and petty stuff while more serious matters started to be let down (like abortion, support to mothers, real violence or even a more complex discussion on feminist theory).

personally, i agree with the idea that a huge part of our society were created by man, including the gender roles – of course part of it come from biology, but there is some exaggeration of some natural traits – which leaded in woman not having much choices, even if woman manage to get some benefit on this roles, and also maleness is seem as default and desirable. this is somehow starting to change, but there is a long way to go.

but if a woman choose to be a stay-at-home wife or want to use make up or not, i think this is completely irrelevant. it's important to understand what create this behavior patterns and understand we don't make our choices in vacuum, but i don't see the point in the amount of importance people put in individual decisions.

Feminism is the radical notion that women are people.
one of my fave quotes.

I am very glad brave fore-mothers paved the way and that things have improved from where we were before the first wave, but there's still a long way to go, even in the countries with most equality.


I don't understand about being critical of feminism because this or that feminist say things a person dislikes. A movement isn't any less relevant just because you dislike one or some of its representatives.

I have come across statements that I strongly disagree with and don't know whether to laugh or roll my eyes at (such as an innocent game of chase being misogynist, or asking attendees at a conference to refrain from clapping and use jazz hands instead so as to not trigger anxiety in others), and there are statements and ways of protesting that just makes me embarrassed despite agreeing with the actual message, like all the protesters who literally wore vaginas on their heads or backs at the Women's march a year ago. I am 100% pro-choice, but that was just cringe worthy. The same message could be spread in far better ways.

It doesn't change me being a feminist.

I'm not a feminist.

I am a feminist. I am a woman, and I have no less value than a man. My SO is a man, and he has no less value than a woman. That's all I figure feminism is, at its roots.

I am a feminist, because when I told my PI in undergrad that I wanted to get another degree, he told me, "You know you have an advantage in getting into grad school, right? Say it." I looked at him. "You're a woman." And I just took that without putting up a fight, and I shouldn't have. In engineering school, in my experience, it is remarkably difficult to prove that I'm getting anywhere on my own merit. Especially with low self-esteem. There are months at a time where I think I've just been pity-passed to where I am.

Since the ramming attack in Toronto, I no longer feel that men and women are equal.

Since incel terrorism is nearly exclusively male dominated, I have begun to think that all men really are dangerous no matter how they act towards women.

If most men had their way, we'd still be just their maids and sex slaves and domestic cooks who can't leave their home without a male escort or vote, even if they don't admit it.

Most serial killers, rapists and people who are violent to women in general are men.

They justify rape and blame the female victims. e.g. "She got raped because of the way she was dressed".


When a teen girl gets pregnant everyone acts like it's completely her own fault while the boy barely even gets mentioned. You'd think that they somehow get pregnant on their own by magic or something.

There are products that are not only needlessly aimed at both genders, but the female products cost more, even if the only difference between both products is the color.

If a woman is strong, independent and successful, it's usually the men who say "she must be a lesbian".

I guess I'll just stop having anything to do with all men. Even my own father and my brother. That means no gifts for them on Father's Day or birthdays and Christmas. As long as I have my mother things will suck a little less.

If that makes me misandrist or feminist, the majority of haters and complainers will also be men, so there you go.

^ There are *so* many awesome men out there. It’s just a matter of drawing the right ones to you.

lostonearth35's post above was the first I even heard of the Toronto attack and I had to google incel.

Cops really need to keep an eye on this group of deplorables, seeing as we have at least 2 such attacks already, and threats of more, as well as threats of mass rapes and acid attacks.

Pro-liberal feminism where it is measured, reasonable and focusses on practical solutions rather than sabre-rattling. Somewhat wary of the tendency to confuse equality of opportunity with equality of outcome, but hey-ho. (I'm also supportive of non-loony factions of the men's movement, e.g. campaigns to increase prostate cancer funding or ensure fair treatment of fathers in child custody cases).

Against radical and Marxist feminism, as I think that (in line with most hard-left politics) they are insane. Also have a strong distaste for common-or-garden misandry, but I'd like to think that isn't overly prevalent in most prominent British feminist organisations.

the unerring truth of the feminists gods

If you think there's an orthodoxy, I don't think you've been exposed to much of it? Because feminists, on a societal scale, disagree all the time.

I agree there's the same thing in feminist circles as happens everywhere with humans where there's cliques/regimes where people jostle and vie for status, and use whatever means to get up there. I've experienced a version of The Crucible (an analogy for Salem witch trials/McCarthyism) in uni campus feminism and it wasn't pretty. That's not a symptom of feminism but of human nature, however. It's perpetually depressing to me that so many people sacrifice meaning for status, I respect that autistic people generally don't.

As a lesbian, I've had a pretty visceral experience of what it's like when men realise you're not there to f**k them, or have any other use to them, and it's certainly enlightening.

Also as a lesbian, I've had some experience of radical feminists, and the claims of misandry are VASTLY overrated. Mostly it's angsty 17 year olds on tumblr letting off steam at sexual violence before they grow the f**k up, they're usually ultimately het too like most women.

Whereas misogyny? HahaHAAhAhAHahahAH that almost doesn't deserve a label, that's just business as usual sad to say.

As long as the Feminist isn't the Tumblr "Exterminate all Men" kind of Feminist, I'm fine w/ Feminism

I no longer consider myself a feminist. Its had a good run, but I'd like to make my own decsions without being told "you fail at being a woman" by other "feminists." *mic drop*