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Whale_Tuune
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12 Nov 2019, 9:40 am

I think that the both sexes tend to be harsher to one another socially. Still, I think it can be harder to be a woman with mild social impairment vs a man with mild social impairment due to gender dynamics.

I know some guys who are as impaired or moreso than me who are relatively accepted by both men and women. Guys tend to care a bit less about the social abilities of their guy friends. Girls will give guys the benefit of the doubt, especially if he has more socially able guy friends. Guys also seem to suffer less from anxiety and depression, so unlike a lot of Aspie women, they don't seem to know or care as much about social deficits.

Girls on the other hand might only have a slight advantage if they are a little shy (but not too shy), which can seem endearing (as the men on this site frequently point out :roll: ) but say that they behave awkwardly, saying the wrong thing or coming off as rude or "creepy". Men ime may make fun of you behind your back (how should I know?) but perhaps out of a sense chivalry will not be nearly as cruel as women are. Women can be absolutely vicious, and then they'll drag the guys in too, who want to impress them. Women have higher standards for other women and seem like they want to punish us if we don't meet those standards.

I know it's not cool nowadays to say that you get along better with guys because female friendship is all the rage (and I do have female friends)...but ime women are much meaner to other women than guys are even mean to guys.


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12 Nov 2019, 12:07 pm

I’ve always gotten along better with males, personally. Most of my female friends are either also on the spectrum or older than myself. Most of my friends are older, regardless.



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12 Nov 2019, 10:48 pm

Have never met anyone like me on the spectrum. Or anywhere else .Male or female ...
Females have known are NT and play along ,,appearing to befriendly , and blatantly taking whatever they can get from me. Then i catch on after long time or until such great harm has come to me . Using anyone else . To create trouble for me. Hoping that i will lean on them , till they can get something big ?outta me.. personally or financially . Usually my home if i have one. Even a mobile home much less my families inherited home.. younger and older both. Grandmotherly or buddy buddy . Thought i got along with men.. seem to get along with both , if simple commercial transaction. . Used to love everybody .. didn-t figure it WAS A BAD thing ? Surprise , your a target ?
Hate being a target ,, maybe take a loan.. and move to assisted living ?
Just to escape?


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21 Nov 2019, 2:04 pm

DeathParty wrote:
I’ve always gotten along better with males, personally. Most of my female friends are either also on the spectrum or older than myself. Most of my friends are older, regardless.


Same. It is a little weird to tell people that two of my close friends are men in their 30s. There's always people freaking out and telling me they're creeps. :roll:

My female friends are either a bit awkward themselves, or quite open minded (but a little distant). I would like to be able to make people happy and not just have them pity me though.


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03 Dec 2019, 3:21 pm

Other women hate me! No question about it.

If a woman wants to talk to me, she either has a hidden agenda or is a complete and total freak or has autism herself!

Or 2 of these things. Or all 3 of these things!!



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03 Dec 2019, 11:46 pm

DorkyNerd wrote:
Other women hate me! No question about it.

If a woman wants to talk to me, she either has a hidden agenda or is a complete and total freak or has autism herself!

Or 2 of these things. Or all 3 of these things!!


Am scared to say , am agreeing with you aswell .


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06 Dec 2019, 11:17 am

Intellectual women do. Lesbians do too because I respect their sexuality. NT's don't because I can't keep up with the socializing. Abusive women abuse me because I can't readily read an insult and it just feeds their sick frenzy.



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06 Dec 2019, 12:10 pm

RightGalaxy wrote:
Intellectual women do. Lesbians do too because I respect their sexuality. NT's don't because I can't keep up with the socializing. Abusive women abuse me because I can't readily read an insult and it just feeds their sick frenzy.


This is just too weird .. really hate to admitt to this one too.
Crud... i just do much better if , am ignoring this regular stuff..
And certainly not fond of this situation. Kinda sickening .in fact , if i dwell on it.
But am aware that being aspie isnt always condusive to best interactions.
And am having intellectual leamings but , consider this while masking ..
But minute , start to feel comfy , let my guard down . And "presto." Blergh!
Used to do well by just being quiet..now , inspite of myself . Am starting to care less about other womens opinions . Including small talk . Especially overt lesbos .. Am assuming the worst about militant ones of these.. not caring now, but will give them same equal human respect , offered me. {Its hard to keep up with various NTs bs }.. but been known to just turn and walk away , "while they are speaking" if am detecting , less than desireable interaction. Regardless of
The audience. . Masking clue here , "smile" whole you are doing it ! No matter how you feel. (have been known to go cry in private afterwards).


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06 Dec 2019, 7:37 pm

I prefer male company too but gay males. The straight ones are too horny and I'm CLEARLY not a friend with benefits. 8O



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06 Dec 2019, 10:29 pm

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I prefer male company too but gay males. The straight ones are too horny and I'm CLEARLY not a friend with benefits. 8O

Agreed.. prefers alittle more intellectual ones even opposed to older ones...

Truthfully as i age , am just happy to be with me..sometimes sad sometimes stimming , sometimes happy , i try to give everyone a fair shake ..
Or given atitude ? A right proper shaking. Lol


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07 Dec 2019, 7:04 am

Generally, other women do not like me (or rather they avoid me, or do I avoid them?). Specifically I have a female AS-like BFF. Life trauma brought me in contact with a few women that I've stayed close to - the ones who are minorities ("social outcasts" one says) in other ways or have ND husbands/children, so are AS-friendly. I work predominantly with men and my best friends from school were male --- we remain in touch, their wives don't like me.



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17 Feb 2020, 9:12 pm

I think my sons girlfriends and their families like me but they are biased and I guess I try harder. Most woman stop talking to me when I don't have much to add to their topics of conversation.

I definitely prefer male to female company. I can't read people easily and men (and children) are usually more facially expressive about how they feel so I don't have to guess what's going on. A guy will grin, or get angry, or quiet, or (my fav) will be enthusiastic, and most women don't show anything until you're already in trouble!

And I'd rather talk about your job, something you learned, an interesting fact. Or just hear an over-the-top story and have a good laugh. What they have to say and how they say it is often much more interesting and I can feel engaged. When someone is enthusiastic my guard comes down. I guess I like listening to random bull**t. :D



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17 Feb 2020, 11:42 pm

I love belko61 wrote:
I think my sons girlfriends and their families like me but they are biased and I guess I try harder. Most woman stop talking to me when I don't have much to add to their topics of conversation.

I definitely prefer male to female company. I can't read people easily and men (and children) are usually more facially expressive about how they feel so I don't have to guess what's going on. A guy will grin, or get angry, or quiet, or (my fav) will be enthusiastic, and most women don't show anything until you're already in trouble!

And I'd rather talk about your job, something you learned, an interesting fact. Or just hear an over-the-top story and have a good laugh. What they have to say and how they say it is often much more interesting and I can feel engaged. When someone is enthusiastic my guard comes down. I guess I like listening to random bull**t. :D

sometimes the random stuff IS fun .


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18 Feb 2020, 4:02 am

most don't but some do
when i seperated all friends were lost, thanks but no thanks,
i had three new female friends but they turned out abusive,
brrrf cheap labor and lies, you must always accomodate others but they won't have a second of consideration for your other obligations,

in this world of beating your own drums you're easy target for not doing that
i think, if people percieve a breach, the urge.... that it must be broken
workwise its about the same, your quietly working, but there comes a woman and she sees her obligation to
tantrum me out, pitchforks and curlers and all



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18 Feb 2020, 4:06 am

no, they don't give a sh!t עליי.


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18 Feb 2020, 9:47 am

I'd say yes and no to that one. Some women like me and others pretend to like me but then later on I hear them b*tching behind my back. I tend to not have a lot of emotion these days so it doesn't affect me nearly as much as it used to.

Whereas my work colleague is so nice. She's like a primary school teacher and is everyone's friend, so kind and warm. Everything about her just makes you want to hug her. I often wonder how she ever ended up working in a morgue lol.

I like to think I'm a warm person to but then no matter what you do some women, and men, I will hate you no matter what. People are like that. There's nice ones and then not so nice ones. Fact of life I guess.