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01 May 2008, 5:21 pm

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But heck...face it...sex is an awkward thing. :oops:


Sex shouldn't feel be awkard - humans are sexual beings. I think some feel guilty, but they shouldn't.


Sex is only akward when you do not feel ready or it is with the wrong person. When you feel the person is right and you feel ready. It doesn't seem akward, it seems perfectly natural. I was like that with my ex. We didn't go all the way but there were times I wanted to and just couldn't because our parents were about to walk in or we had not that much time left to see each other before we had to go. I felt ready and trusted him. Now I am happy we didn't because he broke my heart a million times from when we broke up to a broken friendship.



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01 May 2008, 6:46 pm

I really do not reveal, and I'm leery, but I have been sexually abused as a child. For whatever reason(s), I never correlated that abuse as sex. Abuse is abuse, not love/sex. Big difference. Even though I was just a teenager, very naive, I somehow separated this in my mind. Good thing, I guess. But I do understand females (or males) that associate sex with hurt. I am very anxious, in general, and I would only choose a male who is strong, safe, older - otherwise, I wouldn't even be attracted. I think I have a personality type. I need/want security. I hope it's ok I wrote this.


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02 May 2008, 5:07 am

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Im really curious to know why society[including many women themselves] promulgate the Lie that women dont actually want sex, the just use it to get things from men(like reassurance). Its like people have this ridiculous ideal of women that they somehow do not have carnal, physical desires. Scientific research conduted in the last 30 years has completely DEBUNKED this myth; yet many people still insist on it. Why? What purpose does this silly myth serve? All I can think of is its used to make women look and feel independent of men-not just physically but emotionally. Like the myth that every woman is inherently a lesbian :roll: .




I think it comes from the voices of a lot of insecure men who have been rejected.


It does seem true, for what ever reason, that women seem to often want different kinds of sex in different contexts than men. . . and when the dominant voices of a culture are male, then somehow not wanting to have their kind of sex comes out to not wanting to have sex.


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03 May 2008, 5:48 am

I've often wondered this myself as I am a closet perv who's busting to come out.

From a personal event I had a few guy friends I was hanging out with and one discussion led into turn ons and turn offs. So I joined in and shared what my perverted turn ons were. Ironically all of them giggled with a yeah right you women aren't into that. At that point I felt a little embarassed like I must be an idiot espeacially saying what I did in front of some good looking guys.

As for sex, I think women and men are wired differently. For women sex doesn't just involve sex. I'll hear women say they just want to get laid with no strings attached the same thing you would hear from a guy. Yet later, I'll hear unsurprisingly the same woman who has shared that story many times before of complaint that the guy they automatically got with didn't call or even show up. This to me says that most women, whether they like it or not want some emotional connection as well as sexual. I think many men don't have a problem with getting laid in terms of emotions involved. But that's not saying all guys are like this, just the majority of the time I'll hear as well as see in WP posts of guys casually talking about getting some hoho jobs or the actual thing by an escort or....let's just say someone who sells short and then leave it to that as it is an obscure legitimate business trade. 8)

In relation to the myth, I really don't believe at least logistically that the majority of women are out there plotting in parties to invoke wrath among men by pretending to be uninterested in sex or perversion unless you're going back in time in which women were usually looked down upon in a society that didn't see it as decent. However, in this day and age, it could be just be an individual thing among the conspirators, but I only speak for myself. I often get and feel akward about sharing my own perversions as it doesn't share the same fantasy as a guy's per se. When I do, I don't usually get many responses and when I do, it's usually just a joke. It kind of feels freaky when I don't find many others of my gender talk about or post about their own perversions openly which makes it a little harder to have someone or in general anyone to relate with. In contrast, I find many guys posting and relating the same kinds of perversions reverse the gender as though they were casual as a conversation. So I really don't know what that's about unless it's an aspie thing. :scratch:


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05 May 2008, 4:31 am

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i want to have sex but i'm scared of choosing the wrong person to have it with.
i'm afraid of jerks, you know those who'd kiss and tell
i'd be totally humiliated to be talked about :(


don't worry because people mostly talk about the people they have sex with to their friends anyway. ususally only those who don't have friends don't talk but you shouldn't worry, talk about it with your friends, too :D



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05 May 2008, 5:22 am

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I really do not reveal, and I'm leery, but I have been sexually abused as a child. For whatever reason(s), I never correlated that abuse as sex. Abuse is abuse, not love/sex. Big difference. Even though I was just a teenager, very naive, I somehow separated this in my mind. Good thing, I guess. But I do understand females (or males) that associate sex with hurt. I am very anxious, in general, and I would only choose a male who is strong, safe, older - otherwise, I wouldn't even be attracted. I think I have a personality type. I need/want security. I hope it's ok I wrote this.


Course it's ok, wow, that's huge... dunno what to say!!


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05 May 2008, 12:11 pm

What I was really curious in knowing is if AS affected your sexuality. I myself am disconnected when it comes to sex. I like it, but have no strong desire for it. I do it and it's fun but at the same time I could easily go without it. I was wondering if others felt the same way. I find that I think too much during it and get distracted! :D



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05 May 2008, 8:20 pm

Poeticromance wrote:
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But heck...face it...sex is an awkward thing. :oops:


Sex shouldn't feel be awkard - humans are sexual beings. I think some feel guilty, but they shouldn't.


Sex is only akward when you do not feel ready or it is with the wrong person. When you feel the person is right and you feel ready. It doesn't seem akward, it seems perfectly natural. I was like that with my ex. We didn't go all the way but there were times I wanted to and just couldn't because our parents were about to walk in or we had not that much time left to see each other before we had to go. I felt ready and trusted him. Now I am happy we didn't because he broke my heart a million times from when we broke up to a broken friendship.


Yeah, in my personal context it made sense...I didn't know him too well and I was mostly doing it to get it over with. It was a mistake, but I don't regret it because it's taught me a lot of important things about relationships.

Sigh. Maybe I'm more screwed up than I though.



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06 May 2008, 1:55 am

kaytie wrote:
i want to have sex but i'm scared of choosing the wrong person to have it with.
i'm afraid of jerks, you know those who'd kiss and tell
i'd be totally humiliated to be talked about :(


It's probably a bad idea to have sex with someone who would talk about you knowing how important it was to you that they not. .
the same for someone who you couldn't tell that it was important to you.


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06 May 2008, 12:22 pm

It's the Madonna complex. Historically, women were supposed to be pure. They were the "fairer" sex, with no thoughts of animalistic desires. When a man wed, they were "buying" something new and unused.

Only whores and prostitutes enjoyed sex. Hence we call women sluts and so on. Society is still mired in the past. We see men who spread their seed as manly, and women who have multiple partners as whores.

It's fuelled by religion, society and even the media. The good girl is the one who isn't interested. The madonna.

As a lesbian, we don't suffer from this foolishness. We love sex, enjoy it, and don't have a problem with admitting it. Multiple partners isn't looked down on at all.

Think of it as a male thing. They still want something untouched and if defiling is to be done, they want to do it.



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06 May 2008, 12:41 pm

DevonB wrote:
It's the Madonna complex. Historically, women were supposed to be pure. They were the "fairer" sex, with no thoughts of animalistic desires. When a man wed, they were "buying" something new and unused.

Only whores and prostitutes enjoyed sex. Hence we call women sluts and so on. Society is still mired in the past. We see men who spread their seed as manly, and women who have multiple partners as whores.

It's fuelled by religion, society and even the media. The good girl is the one who isn't interested. The madonna.

As a lesbian, we don't suffer from this foolishness. We love sex, enjoy it, and don't have a problem with admitting it. Multiple partners isn't looked down on at all.

Think of it as a male thing. They still want something untouched and if defiling is to be done, they want to do it.



That sounds about right :wink: . I have no doubt that straight women Want sex and need it as much as lesbians do, but what I HAVE heard many times is that it is MUCH harder for a man to satisfy a woman than for a woman to satisfy a man to satisfy a woman. Furthermore Ive also learned that a woman knows better than a man does about what feels good on (another)woman. So lesbians often DO have more sexual satisfaction than many straight womne :P . I personally have known a bunch of straight women who sexually eperimented with other women and really enjoy it :lol: .



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08 May 2008, 5:14 pm

...I think it also has to do with a change in society's attitude towards the sexual pleasure women should experience. If you go back a few generations, you find a lot of accounts of women who were just used by their husbands for reproduction and satisfaction. In many cases, very little consideration or importance was placed on the wife's enjoyment of the activity so naturally a lot of women wouldn't enjoy sex. Now a days, guys care more about the female orgasm and satisfying their partner.

Granted, I'm just gathering this from a lot of literature I've read, but it seems to be consistant about the male attitudes of that era.



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08 May 2008, 11:57 pm

Oh man, sex is great! I love it, good workout, analgesic (no pun intended haha), relaxing, and if you get the right partner, fun! It shouldn't be so serious, have a little fun in the bedroom.

Variety is the spice of life!


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