Pro-choice or not(Women only)

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My stance on abortion...

Unless the fetus is so matured that it is conscious and can feel pain, abortion is just fine. And even then I don't think it's murder, more akin to self defense.

It's her body. All the arguments about how she should 'respect life' are worthless. Yes, it has human DNA. Big deal. She is the one who has to carry it and suffer the physical problems and the loss of ownership over her own body. She comes first. NOT something that has about as much feeling as pure keratin.

I never had kids, but if I were to get raped or a relative did something terrible then maybe I might consider abortion. Incest and rape is such tragedy for the woman. What is worse is when the pregnant woman has cancer and her choice is either abort her child or go through the cancer treatments. I don't think any church should tell the woman what to do with her child. I don't know if I am pro life or pro choice. I guess I'm neutral. If a woman gets drunk and has a child with a fling, then wants to abort, well to me that's a stupid choice. Or if a woman has a child but doesn't want to gain weight and aborts her child, that's stupid too. I know two such women who did those things.

Why does the stupidity or not depend on her reasons for not wanting a child?

Why should she have a baby she doesn't want?

I think the point was that if a woman is in a position outside of her choice and power, that's one thing, but when she's being careless with her life, then that's another.

And for the record on weight, I lost weight after having 3 kids (in comparison to my weight before that). Birth Control Pills (and patch/shot) and getting the tubes tied seem to make women gain weight very easy. So does beer and alcohol. In fact, most of the women I know who are overweight are that way due to one of the reasons stated above, diabetes, or hormonal imbalances. I think I met one woman who just eats a lot and is lazy. Really weight is a genetic deal, but there are environmental factors also. So to me, having an abortion so you won't gain weight does sound pretty freaking stupid.

Pro-choice, but would also never consent to abortion, unless it risked my life to not do so.

I am PRO-LIFE do not believe that others should suffer the consequences of our mistakes, ie. having sex knowing you can get pregnant...In addition, I believe a fetus, a baby, etc...has TWO parents, not ONE...I believe that if once that baby is born women feel that it takes "TWO" to make a baby, therefore it should take TWO to support it, then that these same women should know that it should take "TWO" to make a decision to kill their baby...where of course, most pro-choice women I have met believe their body, their choice until the baby is born and then it's all about "it's 1/2 yours, where's the child support check..."

So if it was outside her choice and power, fine, but if it was the result of a careless mistake, the right choice is to punish herself with a baby? Ludicrous.

*totally ignores all replies and the direction the thread might have taken*

I'm pro-choice politically and personally pro-life. Yes, I do believe abortion to be murder but I also believe making such a thing illegal is a much worse crime.

I think it's the woman's choice whether or not an abortion is necessary. It's her body, after all. Now personally, I wouldn't get an abortion unless I was 100% certain that I wouldn't be able to care for the child.

I was just saying how I took her post. I made lots of comments in the past on this issue, and many did center around accountability. It's not a matter of punishing yourself with a baby, but taking accountability for your actions and being responsible. In some cases, abortion would be a responsible thing to do in the mind of some people, and in many cases, it's not. I guess in the end, we make the decision first and then justify it with logic. All the women who ever received an abortion in the history of mankind could probably justify it as the responsible thing to do, even when it really wasn't. I could rob a bank and pose a pretty good argument on how that was the responsible thing to do. Either way, many cases are not a careless mistake but an intentional disregard for consequences. I don't know many people above the age of 10 who don't know where babies come from. The deal is if you want to be a grown up and do grown up things, then you better be ready to handle the grown up consequences. If you aren't ready for a baby, then you just aren't ready for sex. Mind you I was active long before I was ever ready for a baby, but had I gotten pregnant unplanned, I would have taken care of my business and raised my child the best I could no matter the circumstances. I knew that was a consequence, and while I hoped for years it wouldn't be my consequence, I knew I could still be facing parenthood.

I guess my stand on this subject, which is really independent on the pro-life prochoice argument is people need to start taking accountability for their actions. Every action comes with consequence. People make enough excuses for themselves. We don't need to be making excuses for them.

Pro-choice here.

Yet to see an argument that justifies unwanted parasitism.