Am I the only one who is getting tired of this?

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No, no. Internet is for porn and pictures of kittens (not together though. )

menintights, I have gone through the posts list on your profile and you have made a lot of posts bashing AS sufferers in general. This is far from the only one. Normally I wouldn't mind this; I believe it's people's right to be hateful, but you are being sanctimonious and hypocritical about it, which frankly pi$$es me off.

Ever heard of furry fandom?

Yes, but it's not for me.
Kittens go nowhere near my sex life!

As a more balanced/less angry guy, I believe there is hypocrisy on both sides of the debate. You have to remember that the guys we're talking about are frustrated with their failures, and are then labeled as misogynists and whiny bit¢hes when they complain about it here, which, while it may be true in some cases, only adds to the frustration. It's very easy to criticize someone who is in an entirely different situation when you are at an advantage yourself, and it's considerably more difficult to try to understand a conflicting point of view. It makes sense that men are the ones whining and bit¢hing, because 1) they are the ones who do the asking, and thus are the ones getting rejected, and 2) aspie men naturally find dating more difficult.

I personally think everyone here needs to grow up and stop making generalizations. I have been labeled as a misogynist for simply stating that I'm single; I didn't even make any attacks against women. This thread is probably the best example. I was accused of misogyny, at which point I asked the accuser to point out some of the misogynist rantings she claimed she saw from me. She was unable to do this.

Just to dispel any perceptions that I'm one of the "nice guys"/misogynists/whiners that the OP is criticizing, here are some posts in which I argued AGAINST misogyny, whining, etc.:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3294588 ... t=#3294588
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3302222 ... t=#3302222
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3302667 ... t=#3302667
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3309307 ... t=#3309307
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3309348 ... t=#3309348
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3312225 ... t=#3312225

So yeah, I'm not one of "them".

I try to understand their situation as much as I can and I'm fully aware how frustrated and confused they feel - I offer support whenever I can and I've had some conversations on the subject that went quite well. I even had a polite exchange with a self-proclaimed chauvinist, because we both chose to be civil about it. As far as I'm concerned, all views and opinions should be heard, even those considered offensive or odd - but those participating must be civil about it, as too many people can't seem to tolerate anybody having a different view and when they fail to convince others just throw a tantrum or resort to insults and attacks.

And that's pretty much the crux of the matter in my view - it's one thing to discuss or ask for advice about your AS-related limitations and those coming from the weird rules in the dating world and a whole different one to just project your anger on everybody else and blame the whole world for your failures. The responsibility is usually shared - while I fully agree that some things/people make it very hard for those with AS to have a "fair chance", saying over and over again that "all a woman needs is to look pretty and find a provider" or blaming one's failure on "women are shallow and stupid and only go for alpha males/jerks" is just counter-productive for everybody involved.

There's something else that bothers me greatly - it's mind boggling how many stereotyping/offensive posts about men are made here by men. According to some, every guy on the planet is either an "alpha" jerk who beats women or cheats on them and treats everybody else like crap or a "nice guy" - according to the description in the respective threads a spineless, bitter push-over who aspires to be a "bottom feeder" and find some inexperienced, insecure girls to take advantage of. And that's just one example, there are plenty others around. If I was a guy I'd have a fit reading such nonsense and even as a woman I find it horribly offensive and warped.

In the end it all comes down to the way you express yourself and what do you actually want out of that thread. The way I see it, those who just want to vent and express frustration or blow off steam along with those who feel down and only look for sympathy and support for their situation should post in the Haven, while those who want to take action but don't know how, those looking for advice, constructive criticism or wanting to ask the opposite sex for clarification on certain attitudes or expectations should post in the L&D. Again, that's just my view on how these forums would be best used.

Ah, that's good. I'll mind my P's and Q's then.

I do get bothered by it to a small extent, I dont let it get to me tho. I practically blasted some comment that one guy posted once. I do kinda understand where their coming from. Recently Ive had some fustration towards women myself, different fustration tho. And honestly I feel bad for them as straight guys. NT females can be confusing as hell, I have a hard time dealing with them at times even being a girl myself, id add the fact that Im not one of those tomboyish, more masculine girls. I can imagine that dating a girl would be very very hard and probably emotionally draining for me. Yes Im going off of steriotypes.

I know some of them are very insecure about themselves which ends up getting fueled into anger. I had an aspie guy after me once and I didnt like him, we said some sh***y things to each other. He starts generalizing by saying, "never date an aspie girl". Having some sorta attitude problem is what I dont like.

So in the end my opinion about it is rather mixed.

HAHA nice, someone mentioned rule 34

Everyone needs to vent once in awhile and a good venting can get pretty nasty. The habitual offenders just have a whole lot more to vent about. Constantly. You can only hope they figure out that their attitude is perpetuating their misery.

I find that speaking in absolutes about anything is always a bad idea. All men are misoginsts, all women are not feminazis. Most people seem fairly even keel but they're not the ones grinding their axes on the boards.

I'd take it with a grain of salt... it's hard to be so miserable all the time.