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Jainaday
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25 Sep 2007, 11:06 pm

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I appear to be in the minority but I think it would be nice to have a place (this forum or a different one) where men were entirely banned so women could talk about things they don't want men to hear. And vice-versa if men want that. This is probably impractical and unenforceable I understand, but that's my wish and this is the topic.

Failing that, I think this forum's description on the index page is misleading vs what it actually is. "This is a place where women can feel safe to be themselves. NO guys allowed!" That is likely to lead naive newbie women to believe they can come here and talk to women only when in reality many men here totally violate that clearly defined boundary. It is NOT a place for a woman to feel totally safe because men read and write here all the time.

Right now, this is more a "talk about women stuff, men and boys welcome" forum right now than a safe place for women only, and I think it should be labeled as it actually is (or changed to match its label but I don't think that's in the cards).


Yeah. . . as things are, the label change seems like a very good idea.

Perhaps "no guy at all" threads could be made so with an indicator on the subject line?


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27 Sep 2007, 1:49 pm

I like that idea.



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27 Sep 2007, 1:56 pm

Who is the mod for this thread?

Who has the power to make ideas rules, and then enforce them?


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02 Oct 2007, 8:42 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Post your ideas here, about whether you want males to post, what sort of posts, whether this should be a forum related to womens issues etc.


I see no reason why males should be restricted from posting. Since it is a public forum within a public forum, I believe that it would be sexist to limit men from posting. That said, I think it's a nice idea to have the women's forum to post about things the guys might really not want to hear about.

hale_bopp wrote:
It would be awfully hard to pull off "women only" so we'll have to revise a way of dealing with that sort of thing.


I have an idea! :idea: How about women refrain from posting material that they don't want men possibly responding to?

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A message board with sensitive issues like this cannot function properley with stone set rules, so we must create some :)


Sure it can, it should be governed by the same set of rules that apply to all of WP.


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02 Nov 2007, 10:30 pm

siuan wrote:
I see no reason why males should be restricted from posting. Since it is a public forum within a public forum, I believe that it would be sexist to limit men from posting.


Males shouldn't be restricted from posting, but perhaps they should refrain from posting as a matter of courtesy. Most people on the WP fora have AS (and those who don't are family, friends, or professionals), so there's plenty of common experience in that respect, but growing up and being female and/or a woman is different from growing up and being male and/or a man.

siuan wrote:
I have an idea! :idea: How about women refrain from posting material that they don't want men possibly responding to?


Interesting proposition, but I have a question or two. :?: If women were to do this, how would a woman with AS go about finding the answer to a sensitive question she has which relates to both her gender and Asperger's? Why should we women censor ourselves if there's something we want to know but are aware men won't be able to potentially help answer?

Excuse me for being blunt, but I want you responding to my hypothetical post about menstrual cycles no more than you'd want me replying to your hypothetical post about inconveniently-timed erections.



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07 Jan 2008, 1:36 am

I have learned never to post about anything serious in here, because I have seen where women had specifically asked that only other women reply, and had it ignored. It wouldn't be so bad if the men were honestly trying to help, or hadn't seen that the topic was in the Women's Forum. But I have seen some downright silly and immature responses which, if it were my post, would have pissed me off. So the solution, at least for me, is not to post about anything I really feel uncomfortable having a man respond to. It's a shame, but that's how it stands.


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25 Feb 2008, 8:07 pm

I think it's alright for men to join Women's Discussion but I don't think it's OK for them to say or hint at things that would be offensive to all women. There are other forums for that. I think we should feel safe to discuss issues without feeling put down. I know that there's going to be some things we don't agree on but enough with the put downs.



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11 Mar 2008, 6:37 pm

I think if a female doesn't want a male to post, then that should be respected. However it should be in the Topic Name, otherwise it's not clear enough.



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29 Apr 2008, 4:42 pm

Hi All;

I strongly think that "Women's Discussion" topics should be excluded from the "Home" page! I just unwittingly stepped into an abortion thread, and I feel like a voyeristic buttinski. Weather or not my comments were appropriate, or not, is not the point. I think this is allready being done with the "Adult" board, and would be appropriate here as well. My bad, I appologise.

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18 Aug 2008, 8:54 pm

posting about how women are being sexist just because they use this forum should be disallowed



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26 Jan 2009, 4:14 am

Women who have been attacked in their lives are triggered by impersonal, harsh, selfish, close minded communication towards themselves by males and other females. Women should be allowed to discuss abuse, rape, family, health, social, mental, and any other issues that they have freely without repercussions from other members. Women should be free to support each other without judgement and without members who don't agree trying to belittle them for their discussion. See the Good Ol' Dad thread for an example of attempted censorship of a victim by other members.



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01 Feb 2009, 3:47 am

I like you mixtapebooty and Shiggly. Some other women as well. Except I have noticed some women on her making some really passive aggressive comments. Theyre being real b*****s and pretend they are not. I don't like them at all.

Thats why I deleted alot in the abuse thread because I felt alot of women would use it as an an oppurtunity to put you down and I was right!

They say they don't like gossip etc but theyre as snakey as you can get.



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01 Feb 2009, 1:17 pm

Well, I guess that puts me in my place.

If you're going to criticize how other women post in this forum, perhaps you could provide a hypothetical example so we know what you're talking about? Otherwise it could be anyone saying anything (and it's always someone else, right? :wink: ).

btw I like gossip. I think it can be used for good. But perhaps that's the subject for another thread?



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01 Feb 2009, 1:20 pm

Don't worry Anemone your one the women I like the most. I will deal with the women that piss me off to them - not to other people.



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02 Feb 2009, 2:51 pm

I just read this section for the second time and now that I am more familiar with WP I'm amazed at how many rules and regulations and proposals for rules and regulations and discussions about rules and regulations there are at a site where people are supposed to be against the interference of personal freedoms and personal expression.
I enjoy the so-called 'womens section' as most of the time it contains some of the most intelligent thread material on the site. I think if men were excluded completely we would be missing out on some good stuff even if our input to the discussions can sometimes be lame and abrasive. This site and the real world are actually very similar in many respects.
I can also understand why a separate mens section would be needed as there should be a place for the archiving of general lame and abrasive man-talk since even second class citizens deserve a place to be heard even if nobody is listening.
And then of course there would need to be neutral areas as well for neutral types of people and well I guess you can see that we'd need a whole lot more rules and regulations to prevent chaos and anarchy.


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03 Feb 2009, 2:23 pm

It bugs me when women create a safe zone and then men horn in on it because they like it better than men's country. But at the same time there are men I like chatting with even here, because they've earned their stripes out there in the bigger world (other forums). It depends on the person and the reason for being here. Also, on the topic. Hector's thread is kind of fun, for example.

I've noticed elsewhere how easy it can be for a man to become the centre of attention in an almost-all female zone, so I really prefer women only as much as possible.