Could you date a grown man who likes hentai rape animation?

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10 Jun 2011, 4:46 pm

Would I date a woman that was into this?

Yes, as long as it didn't override every other sexual fetish and it was kept solely to cartoon/hentai stuff although it's a moot point as child cartoon/hentai porn is illegal in the UK anyway. The same applies to most sexual fetishes - I wouldn't want to date a lady that was obsessed with extreme BDSM, or being ravished, or defecating/being defecated on, or humiliating one's partner, or sleeping with black men, etc...



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10 Jun 2011, 4:55 pm

I would not date a man who had a fixation on porn involving children and teenagers. I

would hope that the man I would be with would be attracted to women, ie me, and not only worrying that he wished I was a schoolgirl,

and also the concern he might be bordering on being a paedophile, is a serious turnoff. And that is not even mentioning the presence of octopi in the porn.


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10 Jun 2011, 5:01 pm

The porn is pretty ridiculous though - giant tentacle monsters laughing while raping women and children. I've seen some of this stuff before and I find it perverted, but then a lot of Japanese porn is. Doesn't mean I think it should be banned though, or that people should be ostracised for liking it. Another reason why privacy and freedom are important - if you don't have it, it allows creepy puritans to control others.

But, as I said, be careful of stigmatising 'rape' fetishes and the like, especially as they're so popular amongst women (although there are degrees to this). Some women who have been attacked in real life even dream of being "raped" (really, ravished) as a way of dealing with what happened to them. There are too many variables in this.

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would hope that the man I would be with would be attracted to women, ie me, and not only worrying that he wished I was a schoolgirl


So dressing up in realistic school uniforms is off then? Nicely cuts off a lot of roleplay/ageplay porn, plus the spankophiles…

As I said, fetishes and stuff are too complex and varied to really choose.



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10 Jun 2011, 6:14 pm

Tequila wrote:
So dressing up in realistic school uniforms is off then? Nicely cuts off a lot of roleplay/ageplay porn, plus the spankophiles…


There is a difference between dressing up in a school uniform for your partner, and having your partner lusting over actual schoolgirls.

And by the way, if I were ever to dress up in a school uniform I would want my partner to also be dressed in one. I never had a crush on any of my teachers and I have no desire to be told off by a male dressed as a principal or a teacher.


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10 Jun 2011, 6:20 pm

zen_mistress wrote:
There is a difference between dressing up in a school uniform for your partner, and having your partner lusting over actual schoolgirls.


A lot of people can't tell the difference, especially with ageplay scenarios.

Although yes, there is a huge difference but a lot of schoolgirls look, to all intents and purposes, young adults.



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10 Jun 2011, 7:05 pm

Tequila wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
There is a difference between dressing up in a school uniform for your partner, and having your partner lusting over actual schoolgirls.


A lot of people can't tell the difference, especially with ageplay scenarios.

Although yes, there is a huge difference but a lot of schoolgirls look, to all intents and purposes, young adults.


They may be "young adults" but I am not, I am a thirty-something adult. I wouldnt want a man who wished I was a 17 year old, or looked like one.


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10 Jun 2011, 8:02 pm

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No I wouldn't. Totally unacceptable to me.

I would have far less of a problem with a man who watched films etc of real sex between consenting equal adults, than of cartoon sexual violence or drawn images of child sex abuse.

It doesn't matter to me that it's not real as such, it is about the thought process.

I don't agree that it is preventative either, anything that normalises or validates inappropriate sexual activity is often used by sex offenders to justify their actions as normal and OK.

^ this

if a person watches that kind of porn and becomes aroused at the sight of it, then it means that they find it attractive to see images of young girls getting raped by men or having sex with tentacled monsters or whatever. i find that truly disturbing.

further, the culture of japan isn't exactly known for being healthy in terms of sexuality. don't mistake a lack of reported rapes for an actually lower rate of sexual violence occurring. it is not culturally acceptable for women to report rape in japan. women also do not have equal power in japanese society by a long shot, which makes it unlikely for women to assert themselves in sexually compromising circumstances. it is not uncommon for japanese men to openly have mistresses, which the wives are expected to accept (while they must remain faithful).

japanese male sex tourists are commonly reported in the areas that have problems with child prostitution in asia (i.e. thailand). so there may not be a *reported* problem with japanese men within japan because the offenders travel elsewhere for their paedophilia.

an anecdote - my friend lived in japan for 2 years, and there is a game that some men play. they try to knock over girls' bikes when they ride by in their school uniforms so that they tumble off and their skirts fly up. there is apparently a special word for this activity. also, it is not unusual to be groped on the bus and such... my friend saw a man in a suit publicly rubbing himself against a woman's shoulder as she sat on the train while other people pretended not to notice. my friend pushed him away, but SHE was the one who was socially in the wrong!

all of this yet... people think that this porn is originating from a sexually healthy society?


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10 Jun 2011, 8:27 pm

Thought I'd link one of my favourite sites human-stupidity.com

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma ... oo-science

There are many articles on that site debating whether watching actual child pornography should be a crime, let alone cartoon depictions of it.



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10 Jun 2011, 8:32 pm

In answer to the question NO!!

In psychology and biochemistry it is say that the human mind cannot distinguish between reality and imagination.
This type of animated porn not change that to gratuitous violence, only helps to foster acts of sexual violence in real life.



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10 Jun 2011, 9:02 pm

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the human mind cannot distinguish between reality and imagination


Can you not also twist that the other way and say that having an imagined fantasy outlet would reduce real life "incidents"

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma ... ond-hawaii

This is probably more relevant than the other article I linked actually.



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10 Jun 2011, 9:06 pm

lilypadfad wrote:
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the human mind cannot distinguish between reality and imagination


Can you not also twist that the other way and say that having an imagined fantasy outlet would reduce real life "incidents"

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma ... ond-hawaii

This is probably more relevant than the other article I linked actually.

the study cites corellations, not cause and effect


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10 Jun 2011, 9:18 pm

http://www.ncjrs.gov/app/abstractdb/Abs ... ?id=210701

if you want to look at correlations to compare against those ones... this study found that 40% of a national sample of men who were caught possessing child pornography were also sex offenders against children... here is an excerpt of the abstract:

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While the possession and distribution of child pornography is illegal in all 50 States, estimates suggest that this type of crime is on the rise, mainly due to growing Internet use. The current report tracks the prevalence of child pornography cases in the criminal justice system and describes their characteristics. The analysis was based on a mailed survey of 2,574 local, county, and State law enforcement agencies who responded with information about the Internet-related child pornography or sexual exploitation cases they handled between July 1, 2000 and June 30, 2001.

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Forty percent of offenders were dual offenders who both sexually victimized children and possessed child pornography.

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Recommendations include the need for aggressive law enforcement action, especially given the finding that many child pornography possessors also sexually abuse children.


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10 Jun 2011, 9:20 pm

lilypadfad wrote:
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the human mind cannot distinguish between reality and imagination


Can you not also twist that the other way and say that having an imagined fantasy outlet would reduce real life "incidents"

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma ... ond-hawaii

This is probably more relevant than the other article I linked actually.


tl:dr & to be perfectly honest that just a justification for that sick crap.
First I know two people that wound the sick by that study.one a survivor of child rape and the one other a law enforcement officer who works in stopping child pornography!



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10 Jun 2011, 10:44 pm

cdfox7 wrote:
In answer to the question NO!!

In psychology and biochemistry it is say that the human mind cannot distinguish between reality and imagination.
This type of animated porn not change that to gratuitous violence, only helps to foster acts of sexual violence in real life.


Any scientific document backing this up?



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10 Jun 2011, 11:50 pm

MCalavera wrote:
cdfox7 wrote:
In answer to the question NO!!

In psychology and biochemistry it is say that the human mind cannot distinguish between reality and imagination.
This type of animated porn not change that to gratuitous violence, only helps to foster acts of sexual violence in real life.


Any scientific document backing this up?


http://www.frontiersin.org/human_neuros ... 00175/full
re imagery and emotions perception

http://www.montessori-ami.org/congress/ ... apersd.htm
Montessori education research paper on reality and fantasy

Plus this neuroscience look at illusion
http://ridgeandtheuntold.multiply.com/journal/item/127

Plus if you which look into the research of Stanislav Grof on the holotropic mind and the use of LSD in psychedelic psychotherapy and transpersonal psychology.



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11 Jun 2011, 1:13 am

Not really I find guys who like anime emotionally childish.