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Xuincherguixe
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07 Sep 2006, 8:11 pm

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Please don't ruin my image of you Xuincherguixe. You're one of the few guys on here that seems respectable. Like you got your head screwed on straight most of the time. :D


As I say, Insanity brings insight, and wisdom can seem insane :P


As far as rage/open hostility goes, I'm a little undecided. Naturally, I'm against being vicious to all women. But there are some pretty horrible ones out there, who do not deserve any respect. But that has a lot more to do with them being a horrible person than gender.

I also hate Misogynists.


As far as amongst the people here? They probably listen to far too much bad TV, and don't hang around with enough nice women. How can you tell which are the nice ones? Usaully they're the really quiet ones who could use the attention.

You know, sort of like the really quiet men.

I'd like to think that if we payed a bit more attention, to different sorts of people that there would be less sexaul discrimination. But that may be giving humanity far too much credit. Around here though most of the people seem to be capable of learning though.



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07 Sep 2006, 8:20 pm

I also can't stand how hostile this place can get at times. Makes me angry.

The lesson I took out of getting generally put down and isolated? Be better than those people.



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07 Sep 2006, 8:41 pm

I meant you're one of the few that seem to view people as individuals and not make blanket statements.

I think a lot of the bashing is pent up anger because so many are isolated from the world at large and believe everything they see in tv or read from a fictional story. Its good to be out in the real world and learn how to deal with others.



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07 Sep 2006, 8:47 pm

You know, one of the things I’ve read about aspies that seems to apply to me, especially in the past, is that we appear to be prone to emotional outbursts, but in reality what we actually experience is frustration at being misunderstood and not understanding others, which is misunderstood as anger.


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07 Sep 2006, 8:52 pm

I have been around alot of NT men...gotta say....I think that some of the women are being unfair.If you consider the men on here from a "comparative" perspective and factor in their lack of interaction with females(meaning,statistically they are most likely to have only interacted with NT women...who also,annoy the hell out of me...)I still think they have more positive qualities then negative.I really wish they could understand that women are individuals...put are the women here doing that for them?I think the "sexist" here(male and female),are still in the miority of the over all aspie population.What guys say to each other in their desperate attempt to "bond" with other men is not always the way they really feel.I agree that its frustrating and insulting when you finnally feel like you find a place you feel fits you and then are still subclassed as "the other".I hope that wont keep women from coming here!
I need their support and feedback and the men need to see that we are alot like them(It just may take some of them awhile to "get this")I have been more impressed by the times that men have "stood up" for women then I am discouraged by the men who attack women....


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07 Sep 2006, 9:18 pm

I like to try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but it gets old having to do that all the time. I'm really frustrated with the AS community more so than the NT community at the moment. I really came here hoping to find others in the states I frequent AZ, TN & NC who I might could hang out with. I really don't care for the online thing other than emailing. There's nothing positive or interesting going on here at the moment so I think my time would best be spent doing something more productive like housecleaning.



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07 Sep 2006, 9:36 pm

I think most people here are overly sensitive and do not have the correct perspective in how to interpret aspie male behaviour.

Not every aspie has the same intellectual capacity, not every aspie is the same age here, many are "frozen in time" in their maturity because of their complete lack of socialization.

People here only see the surface of someone, not the depth of the whole human being and all their subsequent experiences. Most people here are whining and complaining based on trivial surface details, many here are not thick skinned or compassionate enough to figure that in an online forum like this it's going to attract those who have problems and need to vent. And who has more problems then the typical aspie male?

I think people forget that a man's emotional stability and happyness comes from having regular sex, they do not understand that without sex, for most guys life isn't worth living. That's how they emotionally recharge, where women can do so by relating, socializing and connecting emotinoally to others. this is not to say that women don't need sex or get the same or similar feelings out of sex as well, it's more like they have other options and avenues that keep them from getting depressed / angry / frustrated.

And although some aspie women may feel "used" while looking for that perfect relationship, think fo the aspies that cannot connect to another human being for years on end physically or emotionally and you'll begin to understand what male aspies go through.

Quite frankly lots of people think their worldview and the way they percieve the world is correct and sacred and if they find anything that offends it, they begin to whine and complain about it... instead of maybe not relying on their own animal ego so much... take your own idea's and perceptions with a grain of salt, as well as try to think more deeply as well many here are emotionally scarred and have been abused by others most of their lives.



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08 Sep 2006, 12:53 am

Mordy wrote:
People here only see the surface of someone, not the depth of the whole human being and all their subsequent experiences. Most people here are whining and complaining based on trivial surface details, many here are not thick skinned or compassionate enough to figure that in an online forum like this it's going to attract those who have problems and need to vent.


If people are going to “vent” in a hurtful manner that in turn will make outhers feel like venting, you see how this can go in a vicious circle?

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And who has more problems then the typical aspie male?


Many different kinds of people have severe problems. You’re probably just having difficulty empathizing

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I think people forget that a man's emotional stability and happyness comes from having regular sex,


I don’t buy it. There’s lots of guys who can be happy and stable without sex. There are even some guys who are less happy if they get to much sex, like addicts.


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And although some aspie women may feel "used" while looking for that perfect relationship, think fo the aspies that cannot connect to another human being for years on end physically or emotionally and you'll begin to understand what male aspies go through.


And what makes you think woman don’t have this problem as well?



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09 Sep 2006, 1:53 am

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Mordy wrote:
And although some aspie women may feel "used" while looking for that perfect relationship, think fo the aspies that cannot connect to another human being for years on end physically or emotionally and you'll begin to understand what male aspies go through.


And what makes you think woman don’t have this problem as well?


They do have the same problem. It's not as if all the hostility at WP comes exclusively from males.

Anyone who's had poor experience with people is going to have a hostile attitude towards others. Rather than condemn these people for their hostility, I think it's better to talk about it. If they won't listen to reason then that's their loss, but at least you can say afterwards that you tried your best to get through to them, rather than succumbing to the typical knee-jerk reaction to hostility.



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09 Sep 2006, 8:23 am

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Why can’t you like females for things besides dating? Their human beings, human beings that you have to interact with in all kinds of ways other than sexually. Why hate half of humanity? Why hate us when we could be your friends and allies?


Sorry, I just had a rather bad breakup with a female who did some really messed up stuff. That being said, I have some very near and dear female friends of mine, but currently, I'm not feeling like being with, around or talking to anything with a vagina. The aspie females are cool, you've got no ill will from me, but some of these NT women are complete whores.



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10 Sep 2006, 3:04 pm

personally i think it all stems from the fact that most of the time woman have a far easier time getting dates than men do..



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10 Sep 2006, 6:37 pm

There are definitely some misogynists here. For example, "Litigious" who gets malicious pleasure from hearing about beautiful women being raped:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... 806#288806



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10 Sep 2006, 6:58 pm

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There are definitely some misogynists here. For example, "Litigious" who gets malicious pleasure from hearing about beautiful women being raped:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... 806#288806


And Alex wonders why there aren't too many women on this messageboard signing on the Aspie dating site :roll: . I don't even care anymore about the idiots who post about how women have it easy and it's all our fault why they can't get a date. It makes me feel a little better knowing that women are being smart enough not to go for these bitter guys who will only provide an unhealthy and possibly unsafe relationship.



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10 Sep 2006, 8:19 pm

I wonder what it is about my idea of just making educated guesses, admit they're educated guesses rather than the truth, and accept that the world is a confusing place that is so unapealing to people?



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13 Sep 2006, 2:54 pm

What I always find hilarious is how otherwise intelligent men will chase after some frivolous, shallow, high maintenance little airhead, get totally shot down, and then whine and cry about how "all women" this and "all women" that. :lol:

Your inability to intelligently select a partner (one with a personality compatible to your own, who shares most of your interests and values) is not the fault of "all women". It's your fault, so try thinking with your big head rather than your little one next time. 8)



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13 Sep 2006, 4:47 pm

Hazelwudi wrote:
What I always find hilarious is how otherwise intelligent men will chase after some frivolous, shallow, high maintenance little airhead, get totally shot down, and then whine and cry about how "all women" this and "all women" that. :lol:

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It’s cool with me if guys talk here, as long as their nice.

Meanwhile, elsewhere on this very forum a woman says we all hate women. :lol:


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