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29 Feb 2012, 8:15 pm

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I think every adult (male or female) should practice each of the following skills:
  • Assemble furniture according to directions.
  • Assemble games and sports playing areas.
  • Balance a checkbook.
  • Clean a wood floor.
  • Clean appliances: refrigerator, stove, and dishwasher.
  • Clean bathroom and kitchen sinks and tubs.
  • Clean shades, walls, furniture, shelves, bookcases, and other environmental surfaces.
  • Clean to prevent rust and mildew.
  • Drive a stick shift automobile.
  • Find directions to a destination using the Internet.
  • Make a grocery list and locate these items in a store.
  • Make your own bed.
  • Mow the lawn and do basic weeding and soil preparation for a garden; water plants.
  • Operate a barbecue or grill.
  • Operate a motor vehicle in a lawful and safe manner.
  • Operate television sets, compact disks, stereos, computers and other electronic equipment according to directions.
  • Pay bills.
  • Perform basic car maintenance: replace lights, battery, oil, water, windshield fluid and wipers, and transmission fluid.
  • Perform basic installation and set up of television sets, compact disks, stereos, computers and other electronic equipment according to directions.
  • Perform basic first aid and CPR.
  • Perform simple carpentry tasks: hang a picture, replace a lock or hinge, or replace worn replace molding or weather stripping.
  • Perform simple electrical repairs: replace a light, remove a switch cover, replace a fuse, or turn on a circuit breaker switch.
  • Perform simple plumbing repairs: replace a washer, turn off water at a valve, and replace gaskets or floaters in a toilet.
  • Prepare a healthy meal for 1 to 8 people.
  • Put clothing and clutter away to create an orderly living space.
  • Read a map.
  • Recycle renewable items.
  • Remove garbage and trash to the appropriate outdoor receptacle.
  • Set up camping equipment.
  • Shop for basic household items.
  • Shut off the gas and electricity during an emergency (e.g., earthquake, flood or fire); operate flashlights, lanterns, or kerosene equipment.
  • Sweep, mop and wax a tile floor.
  • Vacuum a carpet.
  • Wash and wax a car.
  • Wash clothes by hand and dry in the sun or wash and dry clothes in a washer and dryer.
  • Wash dishes by hand or in a dishwasher.
:D
I've done the ones in bold. What's my grade? :P

It's a pass/fail course, and you are always more than passing ... ;)



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29 Feb 2012, 8:38 pm

Fnord wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I think every adult (male or female) should practice each of the following skills:
  • Assemble furniture according to directions.
  • Assemble games and sports playing areas.
  • Balance a checkbook.
  • Clean a wood floor.
  • Clean appliances: refrigerator, stove, and dishwasher.
  • Clean bathroom and kitchen sinks and tubs.
  • Clean shades, walls, furniture, shelves, bookcases, and other environmental surfaces.
  • Clean to prevent rust and mildew.
  • Drive a stick shift automobile.
  • Find directions to a destination using the Internet.
  • Make a grocery list and locate these items in a store.
  • Make your own bed.
  • Mow the lawn and do basic weeding and soil preparation for a garden; water plants.
  • Operate a barbecue or grill.
  • Operate a motor vehicle in a lawful and safe manner.
  • Operate television sets, compact disks, stereos, computers and other electronic equipment according to directions.
  • Pay bills.
  • Perform basic car maintenance: replace lights, battery, oil, water, windshield fluid and wipers, and transmission fluid.
  • Perform basic installation and set up of television sets, compact disks, stereos, computers and other electronic equipment according to directions.
  • Perform basic first aid and CPR.
  • Perform simple carpentry tasks: hang a picture, replace a lock or hinge, or replace worn replace molding or weather stripping.
  • Perform simple electrical repairs: replace a light, remove a switch cover, replace a fuse, or turn on a circuit breaker switch.
  • Perform simple plumbing repairs: replace a washer, turn off water at a valve, and replace gaskets or floaters in a toilet.
  • Prepare a healthy meal for 1 to 8 people.
  • Put clothing and clutter away to create an orderly living space.
  • Read a map.
  • Recycle renewable items.
  • Remove garbage and trash to the appropriate outdoor receptacle.
  • Set up camping equipment.
  • Shop for basic household items.
  • Shut off the gas and electricity during an emergency (e.g., earthquake, flood or fire); operate flashlights, lanterns, or kerosene equipment.
  • Sweep, mop and wax a tile floor.
  • Vacuum a carpet.
  • Wash and wax a car.
  • Wash clothes by hand and dry in the sun or wash and dry clothes in a washer and dryer.
  • Wash dishes by hand or in a dishwasher.
:D
I've done the ones in bold. What's my grade? :P

It's a pass/fail course, and you are always more than passing ... ;)


So pass+? Passing with honors? Or just a lot of extra credit? :lol:



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29 Feb 2012, 8:41 pm

Pass+, of course!



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29 Feb 2012, 8:59 pm

Eh. I got good at cooking and cleaning because I desperately wanted to be independent, not because I had looking after anyone else in mind. Unfortunately, I do most of the housework and cooking in my relationship right now, though I have tried to make it more equitable. I think it's because I'm just better at those things and I am more house-proud than he is - but being the housekeeper was never my intention. I also used to earn more than my partner because I'm more skilled, when I get back into full time work, I'll be the main breadwinner again.

The problem is that my bf wasn't forced to learn to look after himself like I was. He got spoilt because he came from a divorced family, where his parents were fighting over custody. I grew up constantly being nagged by my parents to learn life skills, they thought my delay in learning them was due to laziness because they didn't realise I was on the autistic spectrum.

I think children, both male and female, should learn self-sufficiency. That way, this unequal balance of labour in relationships wouldn't occur. I can but dream.


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29 Feb 2012, 10:56 pm

i can do everything on Fnord's list that doesn't pertain to vehicles (because i do not drive). i want to add a couple:

  • sew on a button (and do a running stitch)
  • interpret laundry care symbols (included in doing laundry)
  • maintain a computer, including hardware upgrades, changing printer ink, virus scan, and other tuneups
  • change the furnace filter and batteries in smoke alarms
  • shovel snow (if applicable)
  • make coffee and tea properly
  • write a professional email, business letter, resume/cv


hmmm that's all i can think of.


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01 Mar 2012, 7:27 am

hyperlexian wrote:
i can do everything on Fnord's list that doesn't pertain to vehicles (because i do not drive). i want to add a couple:

  • sew on a button (and do a running stitch)
  • interpret laundry care symbols (included in doing laundry)
    [*]maintain a computer, including hardware upgrades, changing printer ink, virus scan, and other tuneups
  • change the furnace filter and batteries in smoke alarms
  • shovel snow (if applicable)
  • make coffee and tea properly
  • write a professional email, business letter, resume/cv

hmmm that's all i can think of.


I can do laundry, I just don't know what the symbols are. I can do most of the list though. :lol:



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01 Mar 2012, 8:25 am

Honestly, it sounds like your mom is way over the top about this. It would drive me completely crazy.

I do sort of understand the need to pass on skills, particularly basic life skills. I know very few people my age who actually know how to cook something that doesn't come from a tin, packet or jar. Cooking something decent from scratch seems to be a lost skill in my age bracket these days.

Having said that, she does not have the right to shove it down your throat continually. Ask her nicely to back off.


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01 Mar 2012, 8:28 am

Kjas wrote:
Honestly, it sounds like your mom is way over the top about this. It would drive me completely crazy.

I do sort of understand the need to pass on skills, particularly basic life skills. I know very few people my age who actually know how to cook something that doesn't come from a tin, packet or jar. Cooking something decent from scratch seems to be a lost skill in my age bracket these days.

Having said that, she does not have the right to shove it down your throat continually. Ask her nicely to back off.


She hasn't brought it up much in the past week since I told her I don't like it. Who knows? Maybe she'll stop saying it. I do know how to cook decently, although I mess up occasionally. >.<



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01 Mar 2012, 8:33 am

Fnord and hyperlexian, I'm just chiming in to congratulate you on your well-thought out lists for self-sufficiency. I agree that those are all very good skills to have, for everyone.

P.S. I'm very glad we have the Internet these days, you can learn to do ANYTHING! {In my day, we had to walk to the library, in the snow, with bare feet, 10 miles, uphill both ways...}



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01 Mar 2012, 8:45 am

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Fnord and hyperlexian, I'm just chiming in to congratulate you on your well-thought out lists for self-sufficiency. I agree that those are all very good skills to have, for everyone.

P.S. I'm very glad we have the Internet these days, you can learn to do ANYTHING! {In my day, we had to walk to the library, in the snow, with bare feet, 10 miles, uphill both ways...}


Where have I heard this before? Oh yeeah, I live with my grandmother. :lol:



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01 Mar 2012, 9:00 am

Erisad wrote:
mv wrote:
Fnord and hyperlexian, I'm just chiming in to congratulate you on your well-thought out lists for self-sufficiency. I agree that those are all very good skills to have, for everyone.

P.S. I'm very glad we have the Internet these days, you can learn to do ANYTHING! {In my day, we had to walk to the library, in the snow, with bare feet, 10 miles, uphill both ways...}


Where have I heard this before? Oh yeeah, I live with my grandmother. :lol:


See? Wife training just makes you end up curmudgeonly... :wink:



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01 Mar 2012, 9:04 am

mv wrote:
Erisad wrote:
mv wrote:
Fnord and hyperlexian, I'm just chiming in to congratulate you on your well-thought out lists for self-sufficiency. I agree that those are all very good skills to have, for everyone.

P.S. I'm very glad we have the Internet these days, you can learn to do ANYTHING! {In my day, we had to walk to the library, in the snow, with bare feet, 10 miles, uphill both ways...}


Where have I heard this before? Oh yeeah, I live with my grandmother. :lol:


See? Wife training just makes you end up curmudgeonly... :wink:


And nobody likes that, right? :lol:



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01 Mar 2012, 10:44 am

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i can do everything on Fnord's list that doesn't pertain to vehicles (because i do not drive). i want to add a couple:

  • sew on a button (and do a running stitch)
  • interpret laundry care symbols (included in doing laundry)
  • maintain a computer, including hardware upgrades, changing printer ink, virus scan, and other tuneups
  • change the furnace filter and batteries in smoke alarms
  • shovel snow (if applicable)
  • make coffee and tea properly
  • write a professional email, business letter, resume/cv

hmmm that's all i can think of.

I can do all of those; dunno why I did not list them, but I'll add them to my file. Thanx!

Here are some Employment Skills:
  • Accept supervision and correction from a supervisor.
  • Act as a manager within the company.
  • Act as a professional consultant to a company.
  • Arrive on time at the beginning of the day and from lunch and breaks (punctuality).
  • Ask for work if you finished the assignment given to you.
  • Ask questions if you don't understand what to do.
  • Become involved on a committee or union activities at work.
  • Develop a résumé and a cover letter.
  • Doing strategic planning as part of upper management in the company.
  • Drive a car or know how to use public transportation to get to work.
  • Give appropriate notice if you can't come to work due to illness.
  • Have job skills for which an employer would consider hiring you.
  • Know how to act as a representative or leader for your work group.
  • Know how to properly answer questions in an interview.
  • Know how to ask for a raise or apply for a promotion.
  • Know how to give a speech or presentation to your co-workers.
  • Know how to leave a company to take another job.
  • Know how to search for work.
  • Perform your job correctly, quickly, and with professionalism (responsibility).
  • Supervise others in the company.
  • Take good care of your customers so they will want to continue to patronize the company for which you work.
  • Use persuasion to sell yourself, your ideas, the company's products or services.
  • Wear appropriate clothing for the job you will be doing (e.g., business attire in an office, uniform in a medical setting, protective work clothes at a construction site, etc.).
  • Work your entire shift as scheduled (reliability).
Enjoy!
:D



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01 Mar 2012, 10:58 am

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I can do all of those; dunno why I did not list them, but I'll add them to my file. Thanx!

Here are some Employment Skills:
  • Accept supervision and correction from a supervisor.
  • Act as a manager within the company.
  • Act as a professional consultant to a company.
    [*] Arrive on time at the beginning of the day and from lunch and breaks (punctuality).
  • Ask for work if you finished the assignment given to you.
  • Ask questions if you don't understand what to do.
  • Become involved on a committee or union activities at work.
  • Develop a résumé and a cover letter.
  • Doing strategic planning as part of upper management in the company.
  • Drive a car or know how to use public transportation to get to work.
  • Give appropriate notice if you can't come to work due to illness.
  • Have job skills for which an employer would consider hiring you.
  • Know how to act as a representative or leader for your work group.
  • Know how to properly answer questions in an interview.
  • Know how to ask for a raise or apply for a promotion.
  • Know how to give a speech or presentation to your co-workers.
  • Know how to leave a company to take another job.
  • Know how to search for work.
  • Perform your job correctly, quickly, and with professionalism (responsibility).
  • Supervise others in the company.
  • Take good care of your customers so they will want to continue to patronize the company for which you work.
  • Use persuasion to sell yourself, your ideas, the company's products or services.
  • Wear appropriate clothing for the job you will be doing (e.g., business attire in an office, uniform in a medical setting, protective work clothes at a construction site, etc.).
  • Work your entire shift as scheduled (reliability).
Enjoy!
:D
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Meh, didn't do so hot on this list. No wonder I can't keep a job. :/



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01 Mar 2012, 11:00 am

Erisad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I can do all of those; dunno why I did not list them, but I'll add them to my file. Thanx!

Here are some Employment Skills:
  • Accept supervision and correction from a supervisor.
  • Act as a manager within the company.
  • Act as a professional consultant to a company.
    [*] Arrive on time at the beginning of the day and from lunch and breaks (punctuality).
  • Ask for work if you finished the assignment given to you.
  • Ask questions if you don't understand what to do.
  • Become involved on a committee or union activities at work.
  • Develop a résumé and a cover letter.
  • Doing strategic planning as part of upper management in the company.
  • Drive a car or know how to use public transportation to get to work.
  • Give appropriate notice if you can't come to work due to illness.
  • Have job skills for which an employer would consider hiring you.
  • Know how to act as a representative or leader for your work group.
  • Know how to properly answer questions in an interview.
  • Know how to ask for a raise or apply for a promotion.
  • Know how to give a speech or presentation to your co-workers.
  • Know how to leave a company to take another job.
  • Know how to search for work.
  • Perform your job correctly, quickly, and with professionalism (responsibility).
  • Supervise others in the company.
  • Take good care of your customers so they will want to continue to patronize the company for which you work.
  • Use persuasion to sell yourself, your ideas, the company's products or services.
  • Wear appropriate clothing for the job you will be doing (e.g., business attire in an office, uniform in a medical setting, protective work clothes at a construction site, etc.).
  • Work your entire shift as scheduled (reliability).
Enjoy!
:D
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Meh, didn't do so hot on this list. No wonder I can't keep a job. :/

Well, now you know what skills to work on!



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01 Mar 2012, 11:19 am

...yeah but I don't know how to work on those things without a job. >.<