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10 Mar 2015, 5:46 am

It is time we men get better!


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10 Mar 2015, 5:59 am

*places an adamantium barrier around his heart* You have no access to my heart ladies you will never get to my weak point ever again!


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10 Mar 2015, 6:07 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
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Bottling up emotions is not healthy but necessary because the majority of women don't want an emotional wreck because an emotional wreck means a weak man and instability! Our unhealthy emotional damage is beneficial for the woman!

Are you living your life and trivialising your emotional well-being for what you think a potential partner might desire in a man and what type of partner are you hoping to attract with that ethos? To me that is living an unauthentic life, ignoring your actual needs as a human, and prioritising the imagined desires of an as yet non existent person, over your own health.
Vulnerability does not equate to an emotional wreck, you have formed an extreme interpretation.

@Concrete, Now to me that seems like a privately healthy reaction. Blocking emotions is something I think I have done in the past, because I did not know how to deal with them. I agree about gender being a spectrum, and that everyone contains feminine and masculine energy/traits. I like to balance mine through meditation, which serves as an outlet for a part of me that I try to embrace, rather than suppress.
The thing is I fear showing any emotional vulnerability because its asking for me to be attacked I will not let that happen again and I will not allow someone get to my heart again unless I trust her and good luck with that trust is for the weak I trusted once and it destroyed me and I was betrayed!I am on full guard I will never let my guard down again!

Perhaps there is hope for you yet... :) I could write that same sentence but replace 'her' with 'him', I think the key issue is fears, being imprisoned by them, or being brave enough to face them, dissect their validity, and challenge the primal part of us with our reasoning abilities.
Look I know you got hurt, I understand, I really do. I'm going to live my life in full regardless of past negative experiences, I have a lot of work to do though but I'll do it for me, my well-being, and not for the 'next relationship'.
Life is short, and I don't want to live mine under the control of my rational/rational fears.



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10 Mar 2015, 6:29 am

Amity wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Amity wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Bottling up emotions is not healthy but necessary because the majority of women don't want an emotional wreck because an emotional wreck means a weak man and instability! Our unhealthy emotional damage is beneficial for the woman!

Are you living your life and trivialising your emotional well-being for what you think a potential partner might desire in a man and what type of partner are you hoping to attract with that ethos? To me that is living an unauthentic life, ignoring your actual needs as a human, and prioritising the imagined desires of an as yet non existent person, over your own health.
Vulnerability does not equate to an emotional wreck, you have formed an extreme interpretation.

@Concrete, Now to me that seems like a privately healthy reaction. Blocking emotions is something I think I have done in the past, because I did not know how to deal with them. I agree about gender being a spectrum, and that everyone contains feminine and masculine energy/traits. I like to balance mine through meditation, which serves as an outlet for a part of me that I try to embrace, rather than suppress.
The thing is I fear showing any emotional vulnerability because its asking for me to be attacked I will not let that happen again and I will not allow someone get to my heart again unless I trust her and good luck with that trust is for the weak I trusted once and it destroyed me and I was betrayed!I am on full guard I will never let my guard down again!

Perhaps there is hope for you yet... :) I could write that same sentence but replace 'her' with 'him', I think the key issue is fears, being imprisoned by them, or being brave enough to face them, dissect their validity, and challenge the primal part of us with our reasoning abilities.
Look I know you got hurt, I understand, I really do. I'm going to live my life in full regardless of past negative experiences, I have a lot of work to do though but I'll do it for me, my well-being, and not for the 'next relationship'.
Life is short, and I don't want to live mine under the control of my rational/rational fears.


Well put Amity, i was hurt from a relationship, cheated on, and lots of things. I vowed to not let myself be vulnerable, and carried it into my next relationship. I hid under emotional detachment, i thought it was for the best and even desirable. It just meant, however, that i couldn't connect, and as my imagined shield slipped over the two years together, i realised i wasn't actually happy with this person, and i didn't even properly realise this. My goal i thought was to avoid vulnerability, but really it was to avoid being rejected in another relationship. I denied myself the ability to connect to my feelings, and limited the chance of happiness with someone, as i was too disconnected to know how i properly felt with this person. I have learned that feelings are for me, i may share my feelings, but they do not depend on that acceptance of others. I now try to accept my feelings, and when they get hurt, try and accept the pain, as without them i dont know what i want, and sadness accepted, can be preferable to nothingness.



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10 Mar 2015, 6:35 am

Men have the right to remain silent about their emotions, since anything they say about their emotions can and will be used against them in their next argument with a woman.

It's just not worth it to do anything other than smile, say "I'm fine", and engage in heavy manual labor until they're too exhausted to feel any emotion at all.

That's why men have shorter life-spans, on the average, than women.



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10 Mar 2015, 4:23 pm

Amity wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Bottling up emotions is not healthy but necessary because the majority of women don't want an emotional wreck because an emotional wreck means a weak man and instability! Our unhealthy emotional damage is beneficial for the woman!

Are you living your life and trivialising your emotional well-being for what you think a potential partner might desire in a man and what type of partner are you hoping to attract with that ethos? To me that is living an unauthentic life, ignoring your actual needs as a human, and prioritising the imagined desires of an as yet non existent person, over your own health.
Vulnerability does not equate to an emotional wreck, you have formed an extreme interpretation.



to be fair the whole be yourself isn't working for me. if you cry or show emotion lots of women then call you unconfident. since confidence is thinking you are the best and nothing bad can ever happen ever, so if you're that you'd never cry or feel sad. so men can never open up to a romantic potential woman. they just start seeing us as a unconfident friend.
wish it wasn't this way but it is. so any woman that does end up with me though unlikely will have to accept the fact I have a woman friend who i am closer to on a emotional level then her. just for the fact I can be open about my emotions with the friend which means showing more of myself and connecting to them better. I can't do this with a guy and I can't keep it all bottled up. i wasn't programed like most guys or maybe its because I was raised by women.



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10 Mar 2015, 4:52 pm

Amity wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Amity wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Bottling up emotions is not healthy but necessary because the majority of women don't want an emotional wreck because an emotional wreck means a weak man and instability! Our unhealthy emotional damage is beneficial for the woman!

Are you living your life and trivialising your emotional well-being for what you think a potential partner might desire in a man and what type of partner are you hoping to attract with that ethos? To me that is living an unauthentic life, ignoring your actual needs as a human, and prioritising the imagined desires of an as yet non existent person, over your own health.
Vulnerability does not equate to an emotional wreck, you have formed an extreme interpretation.

@Concrete, Now to me that seems like a privately healthy reaction. Blocking emotions is something I think I have done in the past, because I did not know how to deal with them. I agree about gender being a spectrum, and that everyone contains feminine and masculine energy/traits. I like to balance mine through meditation, which serves as an outlet for a part of me that I try to embrace, rather than suppress.
The thing is I fear showing any emotional vulnerability because its asking for me to be attacked I will not let that happen again and I will not allow someone get to my heart again unless I trust her and good luck with that trust is for the weak I trusted once and it destroyed me and I was betrayed!I am on full guard I will never let my guard down again!

Perhaps there is hope for you yet... :) I could write that same sentence but replace 'her' with 'him', I think the key issue is fears, being imprisoned by them, or being brave enough to face them, dissect their validity, and challenge the primal part of us with our reasoning abilities.
Look I know you got hurt, I understand, I really do. I'm going to live my life in full regardless of past negative experiences, I have a lot of work to do though but I'll do it for me, my well-being, and not for the 'next relationship'.
Life is short, and I don't want to live mine under the control of my rational/rational fears.
*sigh* I want to fall in love again but fear I am showing weakness, any sign of weakness is a sign a man is weak and no woman is going to respect a man who is weak just pity him. I want to show I am strong and stay strong I am independent although I am in denial of needing company at times.


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11 Mar 2015, 12:50 am

When men do show feelings it makes them wusses and weak! It will take a lot to make me show my feelings!


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11 Mar 2015, 1:03 am

I am a man I want to snuggle but have nobody to snuggle with and if I admitted that I would be torn apart in the real world and seen as a wuss in the real world! So I have to hide it and bottle it all inside! Blame patriarchy?I dont know anymore I just want to love again without the social stigma!


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11 Mar 2015, 1:33 am

I am a man I have feelings and have a soft side,I cry I want to snuggle and nurture and want to be nurtured back which I have lacked for many years and I miss it! *hides as he wipes his tears* I also want to make someone happy i have been alone for so long and on guard for so long it is time i must allow someone into my heart i want to make her happy and be happy in return!God dammit I am crying!


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11 Mar 2015, 1:38 am

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I am a man I have feelings and have a soft side,I cry I want to snuggle and nurture and want to be nurtured back which I have lacked for many years and I miss it! *hides as he wipes his tears*

Image it's a mean ol' world us humans have created, idn't it? :shrug:



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11 Mar 2015, 1:49 am

auntblabby wrote:
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I am a man I have feelings and have a soft side,I cry I want to snuggle and nurture and want to be nurtured back which I have lacked for many years and I miss it! *hides as he wipes his tears*

Image it's a mean ol' world us humans have created, idn't it? :shrug:
It is it is indeedIt hurts inside and I must be on guard against other males wanting to ridicule me as a man for having a soft side and god dammit I have a soft side!I am seen as a weak man to other men so must be harsh cold hearted and on guard at all times!


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11 Mar 2015, 2:04 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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I am a man I have feelings and have a soft side,I cry I want to snuggle and nurture and want to be nurtured back which I have lacked for many years and I miss it! *hides as he wipes his tears*

Image it's a mean ol' world us humans have created, idn't it? :shrug:
It is it is indeedIt hurts inside and I must be on guard against other males wanting to ridicule me as a man for having a soft side and god dammit I have a soft side!I am seen as a weak man to other men so must be harsh cold hearted and on guard at all times!

but if you conform to that societal expectation you are giving in to an evil. "be in this world but be not of it." IOW "be who you REALLY are and say what you REALLY feel, because the people who matter won't mind, and the people who mind DON'T matter." be kind, above all, as much as you can muster. be better than the bad people. if you do this you will be the strong one, independent of others' opinions and in control of your own ethics. worry not what other people think, worry about what YOU think.



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11 Mar 2015, 2:10 am

auntblabby wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
I am a man I have feelings and have a soft side,I cry I want to snuggle and nurture and want to be nurtured back which I have lacked for many years and I miss it! *hides as he wipes his tears*

Image it's a mean ol' world us humans have created, idn't it? :shrug:
It is it is indeedIt hurts inside and I must be on guard against other males wanting to ridicule me as a man for having a soft side and god dammit I have a soft side!I am seen as a weak man to other men so must be harsh cold hearted and on guard at all times!

but if you conform to that societal expectation you are giving in to an evil. "be in this world but be not of it." IOW "be who you REALLY are and say what you REALLY feel, because the people who matter won't mind, and the people who mind DON'T matter." be kind, above all, as much as you can muster. be better than the bad people. if you do this you will be the strong one, independent of others' opinions and in control of your own ethics. worry not what other people think, worry about what YOU think.
This evil is tearing me apart both inside and outside in this case!Thanks now I am crying its not your fault just this stupid system and if they attack me I will strike back although I am a man I have a right to cry and have emotions and a right to love someone. So bring it on naysayers!


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11 Mar 2015, 2:12 am

you DO have the right to cry. any feeling person can take just one look at this world and find it sad beyond words.



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11 Mar 2015, 2:23 am

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you DO have the right to cry. any feeling person can take just one look at this world and find it sad beyond words.
Ok I may be crying but any naysayer who attacks me I say bring it on I am still a man and beat their asses I have been in many fist fights in the past although I usually avoid them because I tend to go berzerk and let my adrenaline take over and cause more damage to my opponent I avoid most fights out of fear of hospitalizing someone my blood line has a strong connection to berzerkers and I fear it I dont want to hurt or kill anyone! I cry at that thought!LasttimeI gotin a real fight it was in 4th grade and I was being jumped and I went berzerk and beat both of them they eventually ran away from me because i was going berzerk and going all out with the intent to kill throwing rocks and aiming for the head and biting their faces! They never messed with me again and were afraid of me I also was afraid of myself and vowed never to get in a violent confrontation ever again even if it means self defense!


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